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nhynonen
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Need some advice

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Post by nhynonen » 07 Aug 2021, 16:30

I recently acquired a German ww2 silver wound badge maker marked "30" from Emedals auction, i put it for sale and in my absence a renowned auctioneer evaluated that the badge is a fake and gave no further explanations as to how or why. I was not there to meet him or to inquire how the badge was fake but that is what i was told that they said. I am reluctant to doubt its authenticity because i have a great deal of trust with Emedals and with the items they provide so does anyone have any insight as to is this badge genuine or not? I greatly appreciate any help on this. I will put the link to the Emedals auction where i purchased the badge coupled with a black grade wound badge, since posting other pictures of the badge are challenging at the moment so bear with me.


https://www.emedals.com/germany-wehrmac ... ver-grades

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Post by Hans1906 » 07 Aug 2021, 18:48

Lots of fakes, reproductions all over the planet earth, no idea so far...

Father of my childhood friend Hans-Jürgen was awarded the golden "Verwundetenabzeichen" as late in 1944/1945.
The man was bilateral thigh amputated in 1944, came back home in a train full of wounded soldiers.
(His married wife ran away back then, she could not stand this)

He was awarded the "Goldenes Verwundetenabzeichen".

Verwundetenabzeichen https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verwundetenabzeichen

The man with "no more legs" he made it until the mid 1960s, hard working, a father of 4 children after 1945.

His name was Johann "Jan" Reil, some local people still remember the man, like me...


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Re: Need some advice

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Post by von thoma » 08 Aug 2021, 02:51

Hello nhynomen ;

Welcome to AHF.


It is true that Emedals has a good reputation, and until now, I've never see them sell counterfeits.

There are some differences compared to another badge marked 30 ( Also sold by them ) on the reverse side,
Mainly in the stamped number 30, and in the closure set.

Tombak, marked 30, Silver Grade; https://www.emedals.com/a-silver-grade- ... -30-g15605

I dare not say that it is a fake.
Go to the Wehrmacht Awards Forum for more opinions, here there are people very specialized in this wounded badge.
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Post by nhynonen » 08 Aug 2021, 10:36

Thanks a lot m8, i will try to find more insight from other sources. As i said and as you said, it is not plausible that Emedals sold a fake wound badge to me, it is not something they would do. It is not impossible but very unlikely.

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Post by matthew4108 » 12 Aug 2021, 14:05

If you're in doubt, send the piece back and request a refund. Emedals is a good outfit but like everyone else, they do make mistakes, sometimes silly, sometimes small but they do happen.

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Post by William Kramer » 27 Apr 2022, 01:19

the badge from emedals is an authentic example which actually started life as a gold grade, but unfortunately the finish evaporated exposing the bare zinc base metal. This is why you see a gold pin on the reverse, as it held to the steel pin but not the badge itself.

whoever is calling this badge a fake has no clue what they're looking at.

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