Capt Kazim and Maj Muhtar

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Capt Kazim and Maj Muhtar

Post by stevebecker » 02 Feb 2022 22:13

Tosun,
I was sent this question, but I found no details on these men, do you have any details on them?

"Wondering if you can give me any information on this Turkish Officer, such as his regiment, date of capture by the 8th LH, and what became of him.
The new forum member Ismail, a journalist with SBS, has identified this officer from a photograph my grandfather brought home, which has had me intrigued for years, as the caption on the back is written in the Ottoman script. As well as Captain Necdet Kazim, the script mentions Major Mukhtar (Muhtar) Bey.

I think he/they were captured in Palestine?
any ideas

S.B

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Re: Capt Kazim and Maj Muhtar

Post by Tosun Saral » 05 Feb 2022 11:35

Sorry never heard.

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Re: Capt Kazim and Maj Muhtar

Post by Tosun Saral » 05 Feb 2022 11:36

Can I see the pfoto?

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Re: Capt Kazim and Maj Muhtar

Post by stevebecker » 06 Feb 2022 22:41

Mate,
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I tried the photo but could move it here, sorry
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Re: Capt Kazim and Maj Muhtar

Post by stevebecker » 06 Feb 2022 22:45

Mate,
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I tried the photo but could not move it here, sorry

We are now trying to see if they belong to Maj Nasuhi Bey Storm Bn of the 15th Corps

"The extract from the Turkish OH (Birinci Dünya Harbi'nde Türk Harbi Sina-Filistin Cephesi, Vol. 4 Book 2, p. 388):

"The Nasuhi Bey Detachment, which was deployed by the 54th Division on the left flank of the army, crossed Nalin at 10 pm to act jointly with the 19th Division. The detachment occupied El Midye and the hills surrounding Berfilya. The Shilta detachment also attacked in the direction of El Burj and captured a dominant hill to the north of this village with the help of the 77th Infantry Regiment situated around Saffa. 158th Infantry Regiment captured some ground in the direction of Beyt Horon. Taking advantage of the initial success, the 19th Division Storm Battalion captured El Burj. However, surrounded by British forces on both sides, the battalion suffered heavy losses and withdrew to Shilta through the hill to the north of El Burj."

British OH says "The little composite British force remained on the hilltop until dawn, when the Turkish survivors, numbering six officers, including a battalion commander, and 112 other ranks, surrendered."

Possibly these officers come from this action but only Maj Nasuhi Bey is named, no other officers are mention with the Storm Bn?

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