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Post by Timo » 09 Aug 2003 10:36

About Hans Schmidt:
http://www.natvan.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/ ... z0WE7tt4PQ
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This is the first-person account of his experiences as a 17-year-old member of the 1st SS Panzer Division, the famed Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, by Hans Schmidt, a long-time friend of National Alliance Chairman William Pierce. As a young SS volunteer, Schmidt fought in the Battle of the Bulge and on the Eastern Front, was wounded several times, and finally became a POW of the Americans, where he witnessed the atrocious behavior of Eisenhower's troops in conquered Germany. A gripping account, very moving and very credible. Contains many photographs.
Now, mentioned (late) William Pierce was the leader of the mentioned National Alliance, a white supremist organization. For example, he wrote:
(...) Nevertheless, it is useful to have a concrete picture now of the world for which we are striving (...) In spiritually healthier times our ancestors took as theirs those parts of the world suited by climate and terrain to our race: in particular, all of Europe and the temperate zones of the Americas, not to mention Australia and the southern tip of Africa. This was our living area and our breeding area, and it must be so again. (...) we must again have a racially clean area of the earth for the further development of our people. We must have White schools, White residential neighborhoods and recreation areas, White workplaces, White farms and countryside. We must have no non-Whites in our living space, and we must have open space around us for expansion. (...) We will do whatever is necessary to achieve this White living space and to keep it White. (...) We must have new societies throughout the White world which are based on Aryan values and are compatible with the Aryan nature. (...) What we must have, however, is a thorough rooting out of Semitic and other non-Aryan values and customs everywhere. We must once again provide the sort of social and spiritual environment in which our own nature can express itself in music, in art and architecture, in literature, in philosophy and scholarship, in the mass media, and in the life-styles of the people (...) this means a society in which young men and women gather to revel with polkas or waltzes, reels or jigs, or any other White dances, but never to undulate or jerk to negroid jazz or rock rhythms. It means pop music without Barry Manilow and art galleries without Marc Chagall. It means films in which the appearance of any non-White face on the screen is a sure sign that what's being shown is either archival newsreel footage or a historical drama about the bad, old days (...) We must have a government wholly committed to the service of our race (...)
...Schmidt, associated with a white supremist organization, says there was no mention of the master race in the SS. Hardly an unbiased source.

Also note the header for their bookshop: a valuable resource for Aryans :?


Hans Schmidt does not mention a real fact about the LSSAH and their behaviour toward Afro-American soldiers. Wereth, 17.12.1944.

Private Curtis Adams
Corporal Mager Bradley
Pfc George Davis
Staff Sgt. Thomas J. Forte
Tech 5 Robert L. Green
Pfc James Leatherwood
Private Nathaniel Moss
Pfc George W Moten
Private William E. Pritchett
Tech 4 James A. Stewart
Pfc Due W Turner

Men from 333rd Field Artillery Battalion murdered by LSSAH, probabely SS AA 1 (Kampfgruppe Knittel).

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Post by Timo » 10 Aug 2003 10:37

The victims of Wereth...
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Post by Witch-King of Angmar » 10 Aug 2003 13:48

Timo Worst wrote:The victims of Wereth...
Did any of the captured LSSAH men say why were they shot?

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Post by Timo » 10 Aug 2003 14:42

Witch-King of Angmar wrote:Did any of the captured LSSAH men say why were they shot?
...Ovi, the killers were never caught. That's why I stated "killed by LSSAH, probabely SS AA 1 (Kampfgruppe Knittel). Witnesses confirmd that they were captured and taken away by Waffen-SS men in a Schwimmwagen. Elements of KG Knittel passed Wereth at that time, right after KG Hansen rumbled through this hamlet.

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Post by Timo » 10 Aug 2003 14:50

Das Kriegsverbrechen in Wereth

Am 17.12.1944 zwischen 8:30 und 09.00 Uhr erhält die Versorgungsbatterie des amerikanischen 333rd Field Artillery Battalion den Befehl, sich nach Schonberg zu bewegen, das die Ausweichstellung des Battalions ist. Das 333rd Field Artillery besteht aus farbigen Soldaten, die von weißen Offizieren kommandiert werden. Als die Batterie aufbricht, kommt sie unter dichtes Granatwerfer - und Schützenfeuer der vorrückenden deutschen Infanterie. Der Batteriechef, Captain Robert C. Murphy, ist während des Angriffes abwesend, so dass ein anderer Offizier, Captain James A. Edmondson, befiehlt, die Ausrüstung zu zerstören und sich zu Fuß zurückzuziehen. Nur Edmondson, 27 Mannschaftsdienstgrade und ein Sanitäter schaffen es, sich mit dem Battalion am Sammelpunkt zu vereinen.

Elf Mitglieder der Versorgungsbatterie gehen am Ende des Tages durch das bewaldete Gelände. Um 16.00 Uhr erreichen sie ein Bauernhaus in Wereth, das Mathias Langer gehört. Die Männer haben nur zwei Gewehre und machen keine Anstalten, sie auch zu gebrauchen. Sie kommen mit erhobenen Händen und einer weißen Fahne, die sie über ihren Köpfen schwenken, an. Da keine Deutschen in dem Haus zu finden sind, bleiben die Amerikaner für ungefähr 45 Minuten und essen die von Langers Frau Maria zubereitete Mahlzeit. Eine andere Frau, Maria Martes, ist auch anwesend, vermutlich, weil sie die Langers besucht.

Kurz vor Einbruch der Dunkelheit kommen vier oder fünf Soldaten der SS in einem Schwimmwagen zu dem Haus. Diese Männer waren sehr wahrscheinlich Angehörige der Schnellen Gruppe Knittel, die durch Wereth fuhren, um der Kampfgruppe Hansen zu folgen. Statt Langer, laufen die Amerikaner hinaus und heben die Hände. Die Deutschen durchsuchen sie, nehmen ihnen de Helme ab und befehlen ihnen, sich für eine Stunde bis zum Dunkelwerden auf den kalten und nassen Boden zu setzen. Nach Einbruch der Dunkelheit werden die Männer auf der Straße aufgereiht und es wird ihnen befohlen, vor den Schwimmwagen her zu gehen. Mathias Langer berichtet, dass er oder seine Familie die schwarzen Soldaten niemals wiedergesehen hätten. In der frühen Dunkelheit treiben die SS-Männer die Artilleristen auf einen Feldweg ungefähr 75m von der Hauptstraße, die durch Wereth nach Hallenfeld führt, entfernt. Vielleicht ging Private Pritchett nicht schnell genug, um seinen Häschern zu gefallen, weil seine Beine gebrochen waren, als man ihn gefunden hat, als ob er von dem Schwimmwagen getroffen worden war. Er starb an einem Schlag auf den Kopf mit einem stumpfen Gegenstand, ähnlich einem Gewehrkolben. Sechs andere starben auf die gleiche Weise. Einige wurden erschossen, und einige hatten Bajonettwunden an ihren Köpfen, Armen und Händen. Die schneebedeckten Körper lagen fast zwei Monate lang auf dem Feldweg.

Die Körper von Private Curtis Adams, Corporal Mager Bradley, Pfc George Davis, Staff Sgt. Thomas J. Forte, Tech 5 Robert L. Green, Pfc James Leatherwood, Private Nathaniel Moss, Pfc George W Moten, Private William E. Pritchett, Tech 4 James A. Stewart und Pfc Due W Turner werden von amerikanischer Infanterie am 13.02.1945 entdeckt.

Am 19.02.1945 vernehmen die 1st Lieutenants Herbert Peterfund and John Polachek die Martes und die Langers. Laut dem belgischen Forscher Ferdinand M. Dessente zeigen diese Aussagen, wie die elf Soldaten von einem mit ihnen befreundeten Anwohner betrogen worden waren. Er findet es sehr seltsam, dass die Langers und Martes nicht für die Beherbergung und Verkostung der elf Amerikaner von den deutschen Truppen bestraft wurden. Zusätzlich hatten die Langers andere Gründe, sich vor den deutschen Truppen zu fürchten: Laut Berichten des Bezirksrats von Liège (Luttich), waren zu der Zeit des Zwischenfalls belgische Männer im Heuhaufen der Langerschen Scheune versteckt, die versuchten, der Zwangsarbeit in deutschen Fabriken zu entgehen. Dies wirft ein gutes Licht auf die Langers und ihre Absichten. Mathias Langers spätere Taten lassen außerdem den Schluß zu, dass er sich über den Zwischenfall mit den afroamerikanischen Soldaten schämte. Amerikanische Truppen waren drei Wochen bevor die Leichen gefunden wurden durch das Gebiet gezogen, doch Langer fühlte sich nicht verantwortlich, den Soldaten zu berichten, was er wußte. Es war kurz nachdem die Amerikaner kamen, um nach Zeugen zu suchen, als Langer sich ihnen anvertraute. Aber selbst dann waren einige seiner Informationen vage.

Martes sagte aus:
"Ich war im Haus von Mathias Langer, als die 11 schwarzen Soldaten herein kamen und wir sie bewirtschafteten. Das war das letzte Mal, dass ich sie lebend sah. Ich verließ bald danach das Haus und ging die Straße herunter, als einige deutsche Soldaten in einem Fahrzeug ankamen. Der Anführer, ein Feldwebel (Oberscharführer), sprach mich ungewollt mit 'Heil Hitler' an und fragte dann nach den amerikanischen Soldaten. Ich sagte ihm, die Soldaten seien gegangen, was gelogen war. Wie auch immer, das Fahrzeug setzte seine Fahrt fort und die Deutschen gabelten die amerikanischen Soldaten bei dem Haus der Langers auf. Den Amerikanern wurden weg geführt und am nächsten Tag tot vorgefunden."

Dessente bemerkt, dass Martes nicht nur wußte, welchen deutschen Truppen durch Wereth marschierten, sondern sie bemerkte auch den Rang des Mannes, mit dem sie geredet hatte. Dies war etwas, dass Langer nicht konnte. Dessente fragt sich außerdem, warum ein SS Feldwebel eine belgische Frau mit 'Heil Hitler' grüßen würden, wenn er nicht einen Gruß, der von ihr zuerst gemacht wurde, erwidern würde. Laut Martes Aussage wußte die SS bereits von die Anwesenheit der amerikanischen Soldaten. Aber wie konnten sie etwas davon mitbekommen haben, ohne vorher mit Martes gesprochen zu haben? Sie erzählte Lieutenant Peterfreund, dass sie gesagt habe, dass die Amerikaner schon weg sein. Aber die Deutschen gingen direkt zu den Langers, um sie aufzugreifen. Die Umstände lassen darauf schließen, dass einer von ihnen ein deutscher Sympathisant war, der den SS-Männern von den amerikanischen Soldaten im Haus der Langers erzählt hat.

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Post by Aufklarung » 10 Aug 2003 14:55

Timo
It's funny that I was just reading about those forgotten 11 US soldiers from 333rd Fd Arty Bty.
When the German Ardennes offensive began on 16 December, the soldiers of 333rd Fd Arty were in posns east of the Our river firing in support of hard-pressed US divisions bearing the brunt of the massive attack. As the Germans came closer to the batterys' positions, however, the black artillerymen and their white officers recieved orders to withdraw towards Schonberg, Belgium. The acting Battery Commander,Capt James A Edmondson, ordered his men to destroy the guns and retreat on foot. In the ensuing withdrawl the members of the Battery became separated.
Around 4 o'clock that afternoon, two hours after KG Pieper had opened fire on the GIs at Baugnez, 11 members of the Battery approached the farmhouse of Mathias Langer in the small village of Wereth. Langer and his family gave the soldiers some food and allowed them to warm up. Shortly after the Americans left, soldiers from the 1st SS PanzerGrenadier regiment arrived in the town. It is now believed that a Belgian civilian informed the German troops of the African-American soldiers who had only recently passed through town.
Riding in vehicles, the SS troops quickly overcame the fleeing Americans and took them prisoner. After forcing their captives to sit in the snow untildark, the Germans drove the Americans down the road towards Hallenfeld. Abot 75 yards outside the village, the Americans were forced down a country lane, where they were brutally murdered. Autopsies later determined that six of the men had died after suffering blows to the head.
The bodies of the eleven men were discovered by US troops on 13 Feb 1945. An investigation was launched, but it was soon dropped. None of the Germans involved in the incident were ever brought to trial. After identification, the bodies..............were unceremoniously buried in a variety of cemetaries in Europe and the US.
Sometime after the warand acting on his own initiative, Mathias Langer erected a simple memorial on the massacre site. Now, almost 60 years later, there is an effort underway to erect a larger and more permanent memorial to the 11 murdered men from the 333rd. Dr Norman Lichtenfeld is working with the local citizens in Werenth to raise money to purchase the land and construct the memorial. For more information on how you can help in the effort, contact the US Werenth Memorial,c/o Norman S Lichtenfeld, 6701 Airport Blvd, Suite B-110, Mobile , Alabama 36608 or email [email protected]
from: WWII Magazine Sep 2003

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Post by Penn44 » 10 Aug 2003 20:37

Shortly after the Americans left, soldiers from the 1st SS PanzerGrenadier regiment arrived in the town. It is now believed that a Belgian civilian informed the German troops of the African-American soldiers who had only recently passed through town. Riding in vehicles, the SS troops quickly overcame the fleeing Americans and took them prisoner. After forcing their captives to sit in the snow untildark, the Germans drove the Americans down the road towards Hallenfeld.
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This account does not match the statement given by Langers. When the SS arrived, the Americans were still in the Langer house. The Americans exited the house and surrendered to the Germans outside. The Americans sat on the ground of the courtyard until nightfall when the SS and their prisoners moved out.

[/quote] An investigation was launched, but it was soon dropped. None of the Germans involved in the incident were ever brought to trial.[/quote]

The tone of the sentence leaves the reader with the idea that little or no effort was conducted to find the prepretators. Who ever wrote this needs to read the case file.

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After identification, the bodies..............were unceremoniously buried in a variety of cemetaries in Europe and the US.
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Several of the Wereth dead were burial in US military cemetaries and IAW policy they received a military burial.

I think this is an old picture of the Wereth monument. In January 1998, I visisted Wereth, spoke with Langer's daughter and I saw the memorial. The imagine of Christ was slightly damaged at that time.

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Post by Timo » 10 Aug 2003 20:58

Penn44 wrote:
Shortly after the Americans left, soldiers from the 1st SS PanzerGrenadier regiment arrived in the town. It is now believed that a Belgian civilian informed the German troops of the African-American soldiers who had only recently passed through town. Riding in vehicles, the SS troops quickly overcame the fleeing Americans and took them prisoner. After forcing their captives to sit in the snow untildark, the Germans drove the Americans down the road towards Hallenfeld.
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This account does not match the statement given by Langers. When the SS arrived, the Americans were still in the Langer house. The Americans exited the house and surrendered to the Germans outside. The Americans sat on the ground of the courtyard until nightfall when the SS and their prisoners moved out.
....Indeed, the article is wrong. Langer stated that the Americans came out of his house when the Germans arrived:
Statt Langer, laufen die Amerikaner hinaus und heben die Hände. Die Deutschen durchsuchen sie, nehmen ihnen de Helme ab und befehlen ihnen, sich für eine Stunde bis zum Dunkelwerden auf den kalten und nassen Boden zu setzen. Nach Einbruch der Dunkelheit werden die Männer auf der Straße aufgereiht und es wird ihnen befohlen, vor den Schwimmwagen her zu gehen. Mathias Langer berichtet, dass er oder seine Familie die schwarzen Soldaten niemals wiedergesehen hätten.
Aussage von Langer an US Army Offiziere 1st Lieutenants Herbert Peterfreund und John Polachek, 19.02.1945

Also, the killers were more likely a recce party from SS AA 1 (KG Knittel) and not from SS PGR 1 (KG Hansen).

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Post by Aufklarung » 10 Aug 2003 21:09

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I cannot comment on the accuracy of the article. If the case supports them found in the house.......................who am I to argue. I merely reprinted the bulk of the article.
I think this is an old picture of the Wereth monument. In January 1998, I visisted Wereth, spoke with Langer's daughter and I saw the memorial. The imagine of Christ was slightly damaged at that time.
Again you could be right. You would have to check more into that link.

The main point of the article is the fact there is no major memorial to the forgotten 11 compared to the Malmedy massacre. The part I didn't reprint mentions the drive to improve the memorial and recognition of the fact.

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Post by Penn44 » 10 Aug 2003 23:36

Timo Worst wrote:BTW, Penn44: there's also a case of two or three afro-American soldiers murdered by the SS in La Vaulx Richard, 17 or 18.12.1944. Are you familiar with that case and do you have more details?
The deaths of the 11 African-American soldiers at Wereth in the 1.SS-PD sector are the only deaths of African-Americans that I know of. I have information about the 2-3 African-Americans allegedly murdered further north in the Krinkelt area.

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Post by Witch-King of Angmar » 10 Aug 2003 23:38

Timo Worst wrote:
Witch-King of Angmar wrote:Did any of the captured LSSAH men say why were they shot?
...Ovi, the killers were never caught. That's why I stated "killed by LSSAH, probabely SS AA 1 (Kampfgruppe Knittel). Witnesses confirmd that they were captured and taken away by Waffen-SS men in a Schwimmwagen. Elements of KG Knittel passed Wereth at that time, right after KG Hansen rumbled through this hamlet.
1. I think you are speaking to the wrong person;

2. I also think you don't know from a reliable source who did it;

3. I think(but it should be also obvious for others) that you can't tell the reason for which they were killed by whomever they were, and you can't answer the question;

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Post by Timo » 11 Aug 2003 00:00

Witch-King of Angmar wrote: 1. I think you are speaking to the wrong person;
...Whatever you say Ovi.
2. I also think you don't know from a reliable source who did it;
...If "who" means names of individual soldiers: no
If "who means their unit: yes, LSSAH
3. I think(but it should be also obvious for others) that you can't tell the reason for which they were killed by whomever they were, and you can't answer the question;
...Why do I have to give a reason why they were killed? I point out the fact that they were killed (to answer your "who killed them" question) by, like I said: LSSAH, most probabely SS AA 1 and given the Schwimmwagen one of the scouting parties from 3.Kompanie. This can be determined from their time of arrival (KG Hansen past Wereth much earlier that morning) and their vehicle (LAH was almost out of Schwimmers and managed to find hardly enough to equip two out of three platoons in 3./SS AA 1 with them).

But perhaps you can think of other possible murderers who had the means and the motive to hit them with a car and smash their skulls without giving them a chance to use their weapons.

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Post by Witch-King of Angmar » 11 Aug 2003 00:14

Timo Worst wrote:...Why do I have to give a reason why they were killed
Just curious.
Timo Worst wrote:But perhaps you can think of other possible murderers who had the means and the motive to hit them with a car and smash their skulls without giving them a chance to use their weapons.
I guess I'll leave thinking to the horses myself :D

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Post by Panzermahn » 15 Aug 2003 03:17

Timo,

I thought we are not supposed to post any atrocity photos in here? :roll:

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Post by Penn44 » 15 Aug 2003 03:27

panzermahn wrote:Timo,

I thought we are not supposed to post any atrocity photos in here? :roll:
Panzermahn:
The resolution on the photo is not that great, and it does not show any grotesque wounds.

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