Die Bandenkämpfer - Holders of Bandenkampfabzeichen

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Post by W.Vermeer » 09 Mar 2010, 10:49

Original paper? who knows?
As far as I can see it is original, but it does not confirm Bohlken received the Bronzenes Bandenkampfabzeichen. It only declares ha had fulfilled the required data to be awarded such a decoration.

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Post by W.Vermeer » 09 Mar 2010, 10:54

I may be forgetting something but if Brauer, Ludl, Prasch and Kuhbandner all have the date 15th February 1945, why on earth did the Volkischer Beobachter newspaper in Berlin printed on 22nd February 1945 report to the German people the award of the badges was made personally by Himmler to them on the 21st February 1945? Have I missed something?
Matt this is the typical difference between the awarding date and the presentation date. The awarding dates, the actual date the decorations were awarded to them was 15th February (dates on documents also known in German as Verleihungsdaten). The decorations were presented to the men on 21st Febraury by Himmler.


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Post by Hecht » 09 Mar 2010, 12:37

W.Vermeer wrote:
Original paper? who knows?
As far as I can see it is original, but it does not confirm Bohlken received the Bronzenes Bandenkampfabzeichen. It only declares ha had fulfilled the required data to be awarded such a decoration.
So, it's very likely he was awarded with it... :roll:

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Post by W.Vermeer » 09 Mar 2010, 13:29

Unless something went wrong in the burocracie it most likely was awarded some time later, but no sure proof with this document.

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Post by Hecht » 09 Mar 2010, 14:24

Please check this thread carefully, we list even BKA proposed for\not confirmed "holders".

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Post by W.Vermeer » 09 Mar 2010, 15:02

Please check this thread carefully, we list even BKA proposed for\not confirmed "holders".
That was noted, but then has to be established if a document or a note or other mentioning here is for an actual awarding or for a proposal. That's what has been done with this document.

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Post by Hecht » 16 Mar 2010, 22:00

Row.d.SchuPo Markert Leo, 28.09.1912 in Schoenbach Unterfranken, III.\SS-Pol.Rgt.10, BKAs (Soldbuch, Nahkampfspange in Silber on 01.05.1945)

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Post by Hecht » 23 Apr 2010, 22:20

Oberleutnant Werner Militzer, u.a. im 1. Georg. Bau Batl. "Bergmann", später 181 Inf. Division., BKAb. 8.5.45 (Soldbuch at Weitze)

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Post by Bart V. » 02 May 2010, 11:27

What are the sources for these BKträgers?

(2) Helms, Edgar, 09.09.1944, Hauptfeldwebel, 1./Feldgend.-Abt.(mot.) 696 - BKAb
(3) Kelmentz, Paul, ??, Oberfeldwebel, Pol-Feldgendarmerie-Abt. (mot.) 696 - BKAb

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Post by Hecht » 05 May 2010, 10:20

SS-Unterscharführer, Josef "Sepp" Dorsch, 07\01\1921, SS-Jäger-Bat. 501, BKA(b?): (still alive, joined the Bundeswehr after the war. Source: picture of him wearing the badge at the Ulrichsberg Veteran Meeting in 2008, Thanks to Arminiusder Cherusker1 for additional infos about unit and rank)
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Bart V. wrote:What are the sources for these BKträgers?

(2) Helms, Edgar, 09.09.1944, Hauptfeldwebel, 1./Feldgend.-Abt.(mot.) 696 - BKAb
(3) Kelmentz, Paul, ??, Oberfeldwebel, Pol-Feldgendarmerie-Abt. (mot.) 696 - BKAb
Hello Houwe :wink: ,

No notes no source, I'm afraid.

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Post by Hecht » 13 Jun 2010, 14:14

Stabsgefreiter Richard Müloß, 23.02.1907, 1.\Res.Flak.Abt.121, BKAb 14.02.1945 (Wehrpass, Discussion on WAF.)

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Post by waldkraiburg » 13 Jun 2010, 22:51

This photo series was recently posted on WAF. Great stuff...

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Post by Marcus » 22 Jun 2010, 21:30

A discussion about the legality of wearing these awards was split off into a new thread: Josef "Sepp" Dorsch breaking the law with his awards?

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