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THE LIDICE MASSACRE
( June 10, 1941 )
Two Czech patriots, Jan Kubis and Joseph Gabeik, serving with the Polish forces in Britain, volunteered to be dropped by parachute near Prague. Their mission, to assassinate SS Gruppenfuher Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. The ambush took place on May 27, 1941, as Heydrich drove to his office. Severly wounded, he was rushed to Bulovka Hospital where he died eight days later. The Nazi reprisals then began. In the next few days, 3,188 Czech citizens were arrested of whom 1,357 were shot. Another 657 died while being interrogated by SS police. On June 9th armed police surrounded the small village of Lidice, some ten kilometres from Prague and gathered together the entire population in the tiny square. Boys over 15 were lined up with the men and locked up in an empty barn. Women and children were herded into the local school for the night. The houses were then ransacked the pillaging went on all night. Next morning, June 10, at 5am, the women and children were bundled into trucks and driven away. The police then fetched dozens of mattresses from the ransacked houses and propped them up against the wall of the barn to prevent ricochets. The men and boys were then brought out 10 at a time, lined up in front of the mattresses and then shot. In all, 173 souls were murdered this way. While the firing squads were busy, others set about burning the village to the ground. The bulldozers and ploughs were then brought in and in no time no recognizable feature of the village remained. Meanwhile, the 198 women and 98 children were forcibly seperated and driven away, the women to the Ravensbruck Concentration Camp where 35 of the older women were then sent on to Auschwitz to be used for medical experiments. Only 143 were alive at wars end. Of the children, 17 were picked out as suitable for Germanisation and allocated to German households. These children all survived the war and were eventually reunited with their families. The rest, 81 in number, were sent to the camp at Chemnitz, and gassed. Reprisals were also taken in the concentration camps where thousands of Czech political prisoners were murdered. Contrary to what some history books tells us, not a single unit of the SS took part in the destruction, massacre and deportation of women and children in Lidice. The massacre was carried out by a thirty man unit of the Prague police acting under German orders.
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( June 10, 1941 )
Two Czech patriots, Jan Kubis and Joseph Gabeik, serving with the Polish forces in Britain, volunteered to be dropped by parachute near Prague. Their mission, to assassinate SS Gruppenfuher Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. The ambush took place on May 27, 1941, as Heydrich drove to his office. Severly wounded, he was rushed to Bulovka Hospital where he died eight days later. The Nazi reprisals then began. In the next few days, 3,188 Czech citizens were arrested of whom 1,357 were shot. Another 657 died while being interrogated by SS police. On June 9th armed police surrounded the small village of Lidice, some ten kilometres from Prague and gathered together the entire population in the tiny square. Boys over 15 were lined up with the men and locked up in an empty barn. Women and children were herded into the local school for the night. The houses were then ransacked the pillaging went on all night. Next morning, June 10, at 5am, the women and children were bundled into trucks and driven away. The police then fetched dozens of mattresses from the ransacked houses and propped them up against the wall of the barn to prevent ricochets. The men and boys were then brought out 10 at a time, lined up in front of the mattresses and then shot. In all, 173 souls were murdered this way. While the firing squads were busy, others set about burning the village to the ground. The bulldozers and ploughs were then brought in and in no time no recognizable feature of the village remained. Meanwhile, the 198 women and 98 children were forcibly seperated and driven away, the women to the Ravensbruck Concentration Camp where 35 of the older women were then sent on to Auschwitz to be used for medical experiments. Only 143 were alive at wars end. Of the children, 17 were picked out as suitable for Germanisation and allocated to German households. These children all survived the war and were eventually reunited with their families. The rest, 81 in number, were sent to the camp at Chemnitz, and gassed. Reprisals were also taken in the concentration camps where thousands of Czech political prisoners were murdered. Contrary to what some history books tells us, not a single unit of the SS took part in the destruction, massacre and deportation of women and children in Lidice. The massacre was carried out by a thirty man unit of the Prague police acting under German orders.
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What's the message, Mr. Wildboar? Is the fact that the executors were Prague policemen supposed to diminish the Nazis' responsibility for the Lidice massacre?wildboar wrote:THE LIDICE MASSACRE
( June 10, 1941 )
Two Czech patriots, Jan Kubis and Joseph Gabeik, serving with the Polish forces in Britain, volunteered to be dropped by parachute near Prague. Their mission, to assassinate SS Gruppenfuher Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. The ambush took place on May 27, 1941, as Heydrich drove to his office. Severly wounded, he was rushed to Bulovka Hospital where he died eight days later. The Nazi reprisals then began. In the next few days, 3,188 Czech citizens were arrested of whom 1,357 were shot. Another 657 died while being interrogated by SS police. On June 9th armed police surrounded the small village of Lidice, some ten kilometres from Prague and gathered together the entire population in the tiny square. Boys over 15 were lined up with the men and locked up in an empty barn. Women and children were herded into the local school for the night. The houses were then ransacked the pillaging went on all night. Next morning, June 10, at 5am, the women and children were bundled into trucks and driven away. The police then fetched dozens of mattresses from the ransacked houses and propped them up against the wall of the barn to prevent ricochets. The men and boys were then brought out 10 at a time, lined up in front of the mattresses and then shot. In all, 173 souls were murdered this way. While the firing squads were busy, others set about burning the village to the ground. The bulldozers and ploughs were then brought in and in no time no recognizable feature of the village remained. Meanwhile, the 198 women and 98 children were forcibly seperated and driven away, the women to the Ravensbruck Concentration Camp where 35 of the older women were then sent on to Auschwitz to be used for medical experiments. Only 143 were alive at wars end. Of the children, 17 were picked out as suitable for Germanisation and allocated to German households. These children all survived the war and were eventually reunited with their families. The rest, 81 in number, were sent to the camp at Chemnitz, and gassed. Reprisals were also taken in the concentration camps where thousands of Czech political prisoners were murdered. Contrary to what some history books tells us, not a single unit of the SS took part in the destruction, massacre and deportation of women and children in Lidice. The massacre was carried out by a thirty man unit of the Prague police acting under German orders.
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If this is true and that i doubt, they were killing under Germans orders so the Nazi have full reponsability in this tragedy. I don't understand your point this time Wildboar.
Lidice was not the only town who suffered from the Nazi after the murder of Heydrich. On 24 of June 1942 the Germans destroyed the village of Lezaky and murdered all it's adult inhabitants. Bishop Gorazd and all the other church official officials implicated in the shelter of the parashutists were executed at Mathausen concentration camp on the 24 of october 1942. Thousands of ordinary Czechoslovakians who had nothing to do with the plot against Heydrich were arrested and hundreds of thems were executed.
Lidice was not the only town who suffered from the Nazi after the murder of Heydrich. On 24 of June 1942 the Germans destroyed the village of Lezaky and murdered all it's adult inhabitants. Bishop Gorazd and all the other church official officials implicated in the shelter of the parashutists were executed at Mathausen concentration camp on the 24 of october 1942. Thousands of ordinary Czechoslovakians who had nothing to do with the plot against Heydrich were arrested and hundreds of thems were executed.
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And the winners were ......
the Allies (in particular the English).
They erradicated Heydrich who was one of the most dangerous and influential men in the Reich.
And they got someone else to do it for them.
They erradicated Heydrich who was one of the most dangerous and influential men in the Reich.
And they got someone else to do it for them.
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Heydrich was considered one of the most dangerous Nazi at the time and possibly the next Führer of the Third Reich. Why the Allies did not attempt to try to killed other Nazi big shot based in the new occupied country in Europe ? I guess after what happened in Lidice and others Czechoslovakians town they probably cancelled those plans.
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In my opinion the Allies targetted Heydrich for a good reason.
It was rumoured that Heydrich was to be Hitlers successor.
Heydrich was dangerous, viscious and above all extremely intelligent.
If the Allies wiped out Hitler (with the help of the resistance of on their own) then there was a real possibility that Heydrich would step up and take control.
And with Heydrich in control things may (and I stress may) have turned out a little different.
It was rumoured that Heydrich was to be Hitlers successor.
Heydrich was dangerous, viscious and above all extremely intelligent.
If the Allies wiped out Hitler (with the help of the resistance of on their own) then there was a real possibility that Heydrich would step up and take control.
And with Heydrich in control things may (and I stress may) have turned out a little different.
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Re: wasTHE LIDICE MASSACRE carried by czeckoslovakin's for n
Well, You shall not believe to every neo-Nazi page - (and indeed not to the so stupid one which states that Gabčík and Kubiš were serving in Polish armed forces, they were both serving in Czechoslovak exile army) - the only part that Czech Gendarmerie took in case of Lidice was German authorities ordered blocking of possible escape routes - the shooting itself was made by 30 men of Schupo from Halle (Heydrich's hometown), later destructing of village by Waffen SS and RAD units.wildboar wrote:THE LIDICE MASSACRE
( June 10, 1941 )
Two Czech patriots, Jan Kubis and Joseph Gabeik, serving with the Polish forces in Britain, volunteered to be dropped by parachute near Prague. Their mission, to assassinate SS Gruppenfuher Reinhard Heydrich, the Reich Protector of Bohemia and Moravia. The ambush took place on May 27, 1941, as Heydrich drove to his office. Severly wounded, he was rushed to Bulovka Hospital where he died eight days later. The Nazi reprisals then began. In the next few days, 3,188 Czech citizens were arrested of whom 1,357 were shot. Another 657 died while being interrogated by SS police. On June 9th armed police surrounded the small village of Lidice, some ten kilometres from Prague and gathered together the entire population in the tiny square. Boys over 15 were lined up with the men and locked up in an empty barn. Women and children were herded into the local school for the night. The houses were then ransacked the pillaging went on all night. Next morning, June 10, at 5am, the women and children were bundled into trucks and driven away. The police then fetched dozens of mattresses from the ransacked houses and propped them up against the wall of the barn to prevent ricochets. The men and boys were then brought out 10 at a time, lined up in front of the mattresses and then shot. In all, 173 souls were murdered this way. While the firing squads were busy, others set about burning the village to the ground. The bulldozers and ploughs were then brought in and in no time no recognizable feature of the village remained. Meanwhile, the 198 women and 98 children were forcibly seperated and driven away, the women to the Ravensbruck Concentration Camp where 35 of the older women were then sent on to Auschwitz to be used for medical experiments. Only 143 were alive at wars end. Of the children, 17 were picked out as suitable for Germanisation and allocated to German households. These children all survived the war and were eventually reunited with their families. The rest, 81 in number, were sent to the camp at Chemnitz, and gassed. Reprisals were also taken in the concentration camps where thousands of Czech political prisoners were murdered. Contrary to what some history books tells us, not a single unit of the SS took part in the destruction, massacre and deportation of women and children in Lidice. The massacre was carried out by a thirty man unit of the Prague police acting under German orders.
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I heard the allies and the exile government were not happy to see things being so orderly and quite in the CSR, so they decided to stir up trouble by killing Hydrich, who was effectively fighting the resistance by using stick and carrot tactics.Phil V wrote:In my opinion the Allies targetted Heydrich for a good reason.
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German unit did take part in massacre at Lidice under the command of Hans-Ulrich GESCHKE, he personally participated in the extermination of Lidice, read Eduard Stehliks book Lidice The Story of a Czech Village
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Actually, I don't think W-SS units took part in Lidice.later destructing of village by Waffen SS
I've read that the security police detachment (Schupo) was commanded by SS-Hauptsturmfuhrer Max Rostock. I believe the overall operation was under the command of BdS Horst Böhme. Dr. Franz Treml commanded the film unit that recorded the village's destruction.