Toldi tank production
- David C. Clarke
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Hi David,
Since your are now somewhat of a Zrinyi expert in this forum, can you tell us what do you think of it as compared with various German assault guns/tank destroyers? I know the Zrinyis came too later in the war and only a negligeable small number was actually produced, and thus there is little in their fighting record.
Thanks and Best Regards!
Since your are now somewhat of a Zrinyi expert in this forum, can you tell us what do you think of it as compared with various German assault guns/tank destroyers? I know the Zrinyis came too later in the war and only a negligeable small number was actually produced, and thus there is little in their fighting record.
Thanks and Best Regards!
Yes that is true. Hungarians got licenses to manufacture Swedish (38M Toldi I könnyû harckocsi & Nimród páncélvadász és légvédelmi gépágyú) and Czech (40M Turán I közepes harckocsi) designed AFVs. The Csaba was a Hungarian design but first made for the British Army.luno wrote:Swedish Landsverk sold one L60 (nr 55160) for 139.800 Swedish kr and after that we sold the licens for making 200–300st L60 under the name Toldi M38 to Hungaria
So the M38 toldi is an Swedish Landsverk L60 tank made in Hungaria
Although the Hungarians fought for German interests, the Germans were sooooo cheap that they never granted any AFV licese to the Hungarians!
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luno wrote:Swedish Landsverk sold one L60 (nr 55160) for 139.800 Swedish kr and after that we sold the licens for making 200–300st L60 under the name Toldi M38 to Hungaria
So the M38 toldi is an Swedish Landsverk L60 tank made in Hungaria
You can find the Toldi tank-destroyer (or antitank) and some informations for Nimrod what I wrote earlier in here:
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... highlight=
http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopi ... c&start=15
Hungary made another shipper 'Lehel' from Nimrod.
I couldn't find where I wrote for it. I will send it again, if you interested it.
Milan
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43M Lehel
The 43M Lehel armoured landrover wounded soldier and troop transporter car, made from Nimród on 1943, but Nimród was important and the manufacture was delay.
43M Lehel made 2 type:
Lehel S (Sebesültszállító) wounded soldier transporter
Lehel Á (Árkász) pioneer
Weight: 10200 kg
Men:
Lehel Á: 1+8 person
Lehel S: 1+4+4 person
Long: 5320 mm
Wide: 2300 mm
High: 1900 mm
Abdomen high: 350 mm
Track: 2066 mm
Caterpillar wide: 286 mm
Engine:
Sample: Büssing NAG Type L8V/36TR
Series plan: Ganz VII., VGT 107 4pace, 8cylinder, benzin
Cylinder capacity: 7913 cm3
Power: 155 horsepower
Specific power: 15,2 horsepower/t
Max. speed/road: 46,5 km/h
Uphill ability: 40 degrees
Up stairs ability: 0,60 m
Ford ability: 0,80 m
Trench bridging ability: 2,20 m
Range/road: 225 km
Fuel: 250 Liter
Armour: 6-20 mm
Gun:
Lehel Á: 1 piece machine-gun with 1500 piece bullet
Lehel S: -
Radio: R-5/a
Reference: Bonhardt-Sarhidai-Winkler: The Armaments of Royal Hungarian Army
Milán
43M Lehel made 2 type:
Lehel S (Sebesültszállító) wounded soldier transporter
Lehel Á (Árkász) pioneer
Weight: 10200 kg
Men:
Lehel Á: 1+8 person
Lehel S: 1+4+4 person
Long: 5320 mm
Wide: 2300 mm
High: 1900 mm
Abdomen high: 350 mm
Track: 2066 mm
Caterpillar wide: 286 mm
Engine:
Sample: Büssing NAG Type L8V/36TR
Series plan: Ganz VII., VGT 107 4pace, 8cylinder, benzin
Cylinder capacity: 7913 cm3
Power: 155 horsepower
Specific power: 15,2 horsepower/t
Max. speed/road: 46,5 km/h
Uphill ability: 40 degrees
Up stairs ability: 0,60 m
Ford ability: 0,80 m
Trench bridging ability: 2,20 m
Range/road: 225 km
Fuel: 250 Liter
Armour: 6-20 mm
Gun:
Lehel Á: 1 piece machine-gun with 1500 piece bullet
Lehel S: -
Radio: R-5/a
Reference: Bonhardt-Sarhidai-Winkler: The Armaments of Royal Hungarian Army
Milán
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43M Lehel S
Lehel S (Sebesültszállító) wounded soldier transporter.
Milán
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Thanks Milan for the information and pictures of this interesting field ambulance/troop carrier. Do you know how many were actually manufactured and how many were actually used by frontline troops?
And if you encounter anymore information on and pictures of this ambulance/troop carrier please share them with us here.
Thank you very much and my best regards!
And if you encounter anymore information on and pictures of this ambulance/troop carrier please share them with us here.
Thank you very much and my best regards!
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