SS-Gruf. u. Gen.Ltn.d. Pol. Karl Brenner

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SS-Gruf. u. Gen.Ltn.d. Pol. Karl Brenner

Post by K.Kocjancic » 10 Nov 2003 00:31

On http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/SS-PO ... f_A-G.html is his list of awards:
Ritterkreuz des E.K.: 31.12.1944;
Deutschen Kreuz in Gold: 16.06.1944;
1939 Spange zum 1914 EK I: 17.08.1941; 1939 Spange zum 1914 EK I: 4. Aug. 1941; KVK I m. Schw.: 1944; KVK II m. Schw.: 1940;
Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Gold: 27.09.1941, for severe eye wound); Verwundetenabzeichen, 1918 in Silber (rcvd. 4 wounds in WW I); Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen: 16.05.1944;
Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer; Prussian Military Service Cross in Gold 2nd Class (WW I); Oldenberg Service Cross 1st & 2nd Class (WW I); Baden Knight's Cross 2nd Class with Swords (WW I); Baden Karl Friedrich Military Service Medal in Silver (WW I);
Polizei-Dienstauszeichnunen; SS-Dienstauszeichnungen; Deutsche-Olympia Ehrenzeichen 2. Klasse;
Reichsportabzeichen in Gold; Deutsche- Reiterabzeichen in Silber;
Ehrendegen des RF SS/Totenkopfring der SS.
Is this "all"?

Has anyone has a copy of his personal file? I'm interested if he got APB (he was involved in anti-partisan warfare).

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Post by Requin Marteau » 10 Nov 2003 09:16

Hitlerjugend Abzeichen in Gold Nr 12410

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 10 Nov 2003 12:54

Thanks!

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Intervestink

Post by Matt Gibbs » 11 Nov 2003 00:04

Hello there;
I wondered if anyone would know if he was awarded the APB, saves me asking the question now! :)
Nice to kno whe was awarded the HJAb also, do you have any listing of recipients of the HJ honour badge in gold or the oakleaves variant..?
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Re: Intervestink

Post by Phil Nix » 11 Nov 2003 13:30

Matt Gibbs wrote:Hello there;
I wondered if anyone would know if he was awarded the APB, saves me asking the question now! :)
Nice to kno whe was awarded the HJAb also, do you have any listing of recipients of the HJ honour badge in gold or the oakleaves variant..?
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He was not awarded APB according to bhis personal file, his German Cross in Gold was for anti-partisan duties
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Post by K.Kocjancic » 11 Nov 2003 13:35

Thanks from me too!

If I understand correctly, German soldier couldn't get 2 medals for same action(s) - in this case for his anti-partisan warfare duties?

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Thanks

Post by Matt Gibbs » 12 Nov 2003 00:09

Many thanks Philmil,
I suspected that the award of his DK might have something to do with involvement over a period of time in this kind of work. Thanks for the clarification, what source do you use for the DK winners, if I might ask, I think I should start looking for a book that covers all these, is there a series in English, I know there is something in German but I have never seen it.
I know I recall a recent reply about Mark Yergers book, does this cover all or only some DK winners..?
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Post by Phil Nix » 12 Nov 2003 12:45

[quote="Matt Gibbs"]Many thanks Philmil,
I suspected that the award of his DK might have something to do with involvement over a period of time in this kind of work. Thanks for the clarification, what source do you use for the DK winners, if I might ask, I think I should start looking for a book that covers all these, is there a series in English, I know there is something in German but I have never seen it.
I know I recall a recent reply about Mark Yergers book, does this cover all or only some DK winners..?
Kind regards

Most of my data comes from BDC files I have copies of 95% of SS Officers Oberst-gruppenführer - Oberführer and about 30% SF remainder is from various sources especially Mark Yerger, Georges jerome and the late Jost Schneider with whom I was in regular contact for 15 years
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Post by Gareth Collins » 14 Nov 2003 02:00

Here's a photo incase you need one :) and a full list of decerations;

* Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
* Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
* Badische Silberne Karl-Friedrich Militärverdienstmedaille (1916)
* Oldenburgisches Ehrenkreuz 2. Klasse
* Oldenburgisches Ehrenkreuz 1. Klasse
* Orden vom Zähringer Löwen (Baden), Ritterkreuz 2. Klasse mit Scwertern
* Preußische Militärverdienstmedaille 2. Klasse am Kämpferband
* Verwundetenabzeichewn in Silber
* Goldenes Ehrenzeichen der HJ (Nr. 12.410)
* Olympia-Ehrenzeichen 2. Klasse
* Deutsches Reiterabzeichen in Silber
* Reichssportabzeichen in Gold
* SS-Zivilabzeichen (Nr. 164.277)
* Winkel für alte Kämpfer
* Totenkopfring der SS
* Julleuchter der SS
* Polizeidienstauszeichnung 2. Stufe (01 Aug 1938)
* SS-Führerdegen
* Medaille zur Erinnerung an den 1. Oktober 1938 (05 Jul 1939)
* Kriegsverdienstkreuz II. Klasse mit Schwertern (24 Jul 1940)
* Spange zum Eisernen Kreuz II. Klasse (04 Aug 1941)
* Spange zum Eisernen Kreuz I. Klasse (17 Aug 1941)
* Verwundetenabzeichen in Gold (27 Sep 1941)
* Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. Klasse mit Schwertern (01 Sep 1942)
* Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Silber (28 May 1944)
* Deutchez Kreuz in Gold (16 Jun 1944)
* Ritterkreuz (31 Dec 1944)
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Post by K.Kocjancic » 14 Nov 2003 09:24

Thanks a lot!

What happend to his eye?

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Post by AHLF » 14 Nov 2003 17:29

Apparently, he lost it.
Welcome back, Gareth. :)

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 14 Nov 2003 18:30

AHLF wrote:Apparently, he lost it.
No kidding. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, what happend to him? Has this accident or wound happend during WWI or WWII?

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eye, eye

Post by Matt Gibbs » 16 Nov 2003 20:23

Hello there;
Brenner recieved the 1918 Kaiser Wound Badge in Silver for 4 wounds recieved during the first world war, he recieved the Wound Badge in Gold on 27.09.41 [for 5th wound] which was for the severe eye wound, so this must have happened around this time. I will try and find out more.
Interesting aside, he was divorced, his former wife later married Josef Sapp Dietrich!
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Post by K.Kocjancic » 25 Nov 2003 11:27

Chief of anti-partisan operations under HSSPF "Alpenland" (SS-OGruf. Rösener): ca. Jan. 1943 - Late-1943.
Befehlshaber der Waffen-SS "Nordwest": 1. Nov. 1941 - 6. Feb. 1942.
http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/SS-PO ... f_A-G.html

So there is a blank spot in his career: from 6.2.'42 to Jan. '43.

Well; I found the info that he took over command of Polizei and SS units in Alpenland after the Polizei-Einsatzstab "Südost" was disbanned on 10.2.'42. So he was already in Slovenia/Alpenland before Jan. '43. :D

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Post by Peter J. Hertel » 25 Nov 2003 15:50

Brenner was Inspekteur der Ordnungspolizei with the HSSPF Alpenland (WKr. XVIII - Salzburg) from 6 February 1942 to 1 July 1942.

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