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Post by Yuri » 13 Jul 2006 13:36

I have made sample of reports of a prospecting department of a staff of 5-th that army
In them it is possible to see, what else units were in structure Gr. "STAHEL".
Here as it is possible to see, that updating arrived to group "Stahel " continuously.
Updating arrived from different directions, including:
From HeerGr. "Mitte", from HeerGr. "Nord", from deep rear, and as from Poland and Germany.
From these reports it is visible, that airfield divisions, having the big losses, received, at the same time, a significant amount of updating.
Note:
1. In square brackets I have put the the remark.
2. "DRILL" "PINEAPPLE" "BATTING" "MANE" "AQUARIUM" - code names of a staff of 5-th Tank Army.
Prospecting report No 25 ÐÎ the STAFF "AQUARIUM" to 21.00 26.11.42.
On November, 26, 1942

Captured, seized on November, 24 in area OBLIWSKAJA, belonging 4-th battery of 7-th group of air defence, has shown: the battery in structure of 12 20 mm of instruments has arrived from ROSTOW in OBLIWSKAJA. OBLIWSKAJA defend up to a shelf of infantry of /Germans/, numbering does not know.
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Prospecting report No 28 ÐÎ the STAFF "AQUARIUM" to 21.00 29.11.42.
On November, 29, 1942

The documents belonging 1-st company and 2-nd company of 404-th motorized spare battalion are withdrawn from 4 kms killed on November, 28 in area to the south NESTERKIN. Field mail ¹ 00433 Â6
[ In the document of figure of number of field mail are badly read. It is possible, that instead of the first figure 0 stands 6; it is possible, that on a place of last figure 6 there is any other figure; instead of the letter In there can be figure 8 - Yuri ].
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Prospecting report No 35 ÐÎ the STAFF "MANE" to 21.00 6.12.42.
On December, 6, 1942

Captured, seized on December, 5, 1942 in area UST '-GRJAZNOWSKIJ, - the driver of 620-th security company, has shown:
On December, 2 company has arrived from KHAR'KOW in UST '-GRJAZNOWSKIJ in structure of 290 person with a task to defend a weak site of front.
This summary company shares on 1-nd company and 2-nd company; company will consist of three platoons. Travel from MOROZOWSKIJ through ORLOW on UST '-GRJAZNOWSKIJ saw many armies German and Romanian. / In ORLOW up to a division / .
ÏÏÑ (Field post service): No 03970-D.

2 captured, seized at 14 o'clock. 00 minutes on December, 5 in area DEJEW, have shown: One of them belongs to a summary battalion which came in direction DEJEW from KARAITSCHEW. The second belongs 2-ìó to the summary battalion attacking DEJEW from a direction. … âñêàÿ*.
… Attacking … in … 2 days to that íàçàä*.
These battalions were formed in MOROZOWSKIJ of soldiers of the rear divisions which are coming back from business trips, the holidays which have left an environment, singles from Stalingrad's groupings of Germans. Over formation the commandant of station MOROZOWSKAJA supervises. In itself MOROZOWSKIJ the staff of the Romanian parts is located. Each battalion will consist of three company. In company 120-130 person on arms of a rifle, machine guns, automatic devices, artilleries are not present. In MOROZOWSKIJ the big congestion of soldiers of rear divisions of which summary battalions are formed.
[* These words in the document are not read, breakage of a paper - Yuri]
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Prospecting report No 36 ÐÎ the STAFF "MANE" to 21.00 7.12.42.
On December, 7, 1942

Defensive boundary OBLIWSKAJA on a boundary height 106.0, the west a marge of a square grove / 1.5 kms northwest height 56.4/ defends up to a battalion of 99-th antiaircraft a shelf of 8-th aircase, has receded from FROLOW. In area of a square grove / 2.5 kms ñåâåðî-to the west of height 66.4/ defend company, generated of the first antiaircraft battalion / 50-60 person/.
To the east «the square grove » defends 83-rd battalion of 6-th building railway a regiment /780 person / .

In OBLIWSKAJA under indications captured up to 15 heavy tanks …
Area PTICESOVCHOZ represents a strong point with all-round defense. Separate houses PTICESOVCHOZ are equipped under DZOT (ÄÇÎÒ - long-term fire a point). In area PTICESOVCHOZ of guns of 5 20 mm, 3 plying tanks, an airfield with 4 planes, 6 motor vehicles.

In area of air station OBLIWSKAJA the captured îáåð-corporal belonging 3 company of airfield-building battalion 1/7 who has shown is seized: in air station 3 bombers. In OBLIWSKAJA up to two shelfs of infantry with artillery.
In northern part of air station 6 instruments of 105 mm and the antiaircraft battery / 4 instruments / are located. Around OBLIWSKAJA is under construction long-term strengthenings, using for it forces russians captured and local population.

Captured, seized in a grove / 2 kms ñåâåðî-to the west SEN'SHIN/at 1 o'clock. 00 minutes on December, 6, has shown: at the end of November to area OBLIWSKAJA there has arrived 37-th heavy antiaircraft battalion, number up to 800 person. This battalion has arrived on the given site from ZAPOROZH'E on motor vehicles without an equipment. At present the battalion is used as infantry and has on the arms 2 automatic antiaircraft guns / 20 mm / and up to 10 easy and heavy machine guns. Captured confirms presence before marked commandoes from 8 aircorps, number up to 80 person which carry out a task in protection to the railway in area OBLIWSKAJA. Arrival of infantry parts in area OBLIWSKAJA which should replace commandoes is expected.

Captured GOSS, seized on December, 5 in area WARLAMOW, has in addition shown:
On October, 22 have left in structure of 300 person, as perfect group on the Voronezh direction. In 5 days of fights have come back in KHAR'KOW. Whence by force up to 260 person on December, 2, 1942 were unloaded at station MOROZOWSKAJA, have gone on WARLAMOW where German parts held defense. The modular group will consist of infantrymen, cavalrymen, the drivers wounded, those who have lagged behind the parts, and others. Are divided on 2 groups: the first - 160 person 4 platoons; the second - 100 person 3 platoons. On arms up to 25 machine guns, up to 25 automatic devices, 200-210-rifles. I the worker, and workers and peasants do not want to die for jünker. For us there is no future will win or Germany will be struck.
All soldiers wish to see the families, want home and many to rescue the life surrender in a captivity.
All soldiers would go willingly home, if not the order and not machine guns behind a back.
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Prospecting report No 37 ÐÎ the STAFF "MANE" to 21.00 8.12.42.
On December, 8, 1942

The captured corporal IOGAN KRUCILA captured on December, 3 in area OBLIWSKAJA, has in addition shown:
83-rd railway building battalion before break of a front line of Red Army worked on construction of the narrow-gauge railway station BUZINKA up to station CHIR.
At deviation of the German-Romanian armies 83-rd battalion has been left in area OBLIWSKAJA for her defense.
2-n company 260 person, on arms makes carbines and rifles.
On December, 1, 1942 to area OBLIVSKAJA has arrived a company of a landing landing by transport planes up to 250-300 person. Arms: automatic devices, easy and heavy machine guns. In area OBLIWSKAJA / to the north of 4-5 km / entrenchments have been hastily prepared. On entrenchments the local population was involved.
83-ìó railway building a battalion have given out 4 - 88 mm antiaircraft guns which are used on the ground purposes. In NIZHNE-CHIRSKAJA there is a staff 6-th sapper railway a regiment, there and other two battalions of it a regiment. In MOROZOWSKIJ is rears of 83-rd railway building battalion.
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Prospecting report No 45 ÐÎ the STAFF "BATTING" by 21.00 16.12.42
On December, 16, 1942

Capture captured 42 airlanding regiment of 8-th air - field division in area a southwest from SEN'SHIN proves to be true actions.
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Prospecting report No 48 ÐÎ the STAFF "PINEAPPLE" by 21.00 19.12.42
On December, 19, 1942

On December, 18 in area SEKRETEW are taken captured belonging: two - summary battalion, two - 3-ìó to a battalion of 8-th LFD.
In area KOWYLINSKIJ on December, 19 it is seized captured, belonging 95-ìó to an antiaircraft battalion. In total for December, 18 and 19 it is taken in a captivity of 26 soldiers.
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Prospecting report No 49 ÐÎ the STAFF "PINEAPPLE" by 21.00 20.12.42
On December, 20, 1942

In area of height 127.7 / 4 km to the south NOWO-DERBENOWSKIJ/ on December, 20 are seized captured 133 IR 45 ID which have shown, that 133-rd regiment on December, 18 has arrived on CHERNZSCHKOWSKIJ. on December, 19 from a course is entered into fight; other regiments on the approach.

On December, 19 in area to the south KOWYLINSKIJ it is seized captured, belonging to a special battalion. The special battalion has arrived on December, 17 from ZAPOROZHYE on motor vehicles for updating 8-th air - field division in quantity 800 person, are collected from different units.
Besides the summary battalion which has arrived on December, 16 in area MOROZOWSKIJ from MAGDEBURG (Germany) in quantity 600 person.
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Prospecting report No 50 ÐÎ the STAFF "PINEAPPLE" by 21.00 21.12.42
On December, 21, 1942

Within night the opponent from area OBLIWSKAJA threw up to one battalion of 8-th LFD area OBRYWSKIJ …
In area OBRYWSKIJ on December, 21 at killed the documents belonging are withdrawn: one to 1-th company 3-nd battalion of 8-th LFD and the second to 15-th bridge building company.

Prospecting report No 55 ÐÎ the STAFF "CRYSTAL" to 21.00 26.12.42.
On December, 26, 1942

Capture on December, 24 in area KOWYLINSKIJ captured proves to be true the action of 301-st battalion of the protection which have arrived to area Oblivskaja from DUBNA (HeerGr. "Mitte") on December, 4-5.
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Prospecting report No 51 ÐÎ the STAFF "PINEAPPLE" by 21.00 22.12.42
On December, 22, 1942

Captured, seized on December, 20 in area OBLIWSKAJA, proves to be true actions of battle group "SCHULZ" by number 400 person.
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Prospecting report No 60 ÐÎ the STAFF "DRILL" to 21.00 31.12.42.
On December, 31, 1942

On December, 31 in area JARSKOY, LAGUTIN it is taken in the captivity of soldiers earlier belonging 791-ìó the sapper to a battalion.
Captured has shown: 300 person enters into a summary battalion number - on the given site has arrived on December, 27 from LADOGA (HeerGr. "NORD").

Captured, seized on December, 23 in area SOLONECKIJ, action is established:
12-th trophy a battalion - 200 person;
676-th building battalion, last has arrived from ROSTOW on December, 27 - 300 person.
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These documents were not published anywhere earlier.

/
udachi / Good Luck

Yuri

P. S.
Here the text in Russian.
Who wishes, can execute qualitative translation.

P. P. S
There is an interesting addition on battle group "SCHULZ" - colonel SCHULZ.
The structure of this battle group included Ukrainian unit - "hundred" which has arrived from the Western Ukraine number 200 person.
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Post by Yuri » 13 Jul 2006 21:49

From the middle of December, 1942 on the part of Russian against battle groups "STAHEL" operated 40-n Guards Rifle Division and 55-n a Mountain Cavalry Division from structure 8th Cav. Corps.
Arrived in the beginning of December in area OBLIVSKAJA 321-n Rifle Division, has soon been thrown in area SUROVIKINO where fresh German divisions from structure XLVIII Panzer Corps have appeared.
In an archival file there is an interesting document.

This document represents a map of scale 1 : 50 000 (1 sm - 500 ì)
The map is made in a staff 40th Guards Rifle Division on December, 22, 1942
On this map circuits are shown:
a/ The schema of accommodation of units of the opponent before front of 40-th Guadrs Rifle Division as of December, 19, 1942
b/ The schema of defense of 40-th Guards Rifle Division as of December, 22, 1942

Besides in the bottom part of this map there is a table in which fighting force of units of 40-th Guards Rifle Division is specified.
To the right of this table there is a column of the data describing density of forces 40-th Guards Rifle Division on 1 kilometer of a front line of defense.
The map on volume is very great, and for this reason of her to show it is impossible.
However, it is possible to show the contents of the table which is located in the bottom part on this map.

The central Archive of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation
Fund 331, the Inventory 5041, File 47, Sheet 54-55
The schema of accommodation of the opponent before front 40th Guards Rifle Division for December, 19, 1942
[Places accommodation of units of the opponent in a strip of front of defense 40th GRD (scale 1 : 50000) are shown - my insert Yuri]

The chief of a staff 40th Guards Rifle Division
guards the lieutenant colonel /MOROZOW/

The chief of 2-nd branch
guards the captain /DOMOTYRKO/


The schema of defense 40th Guards Rifle Division for December, 22, 1942

[accommodation of units 40th GRD (scale 1 : 50 000) Is shown.
Right (northern) border of a strip of defense passed in 8 km to the north from OBLIVSKAJA.
The left (southern) border passed on the river Chir to the east from KOWYLINSKIJ.
Tracing a front line: 8 km to the north OBLIVSKAJA - 2.5 km to the north FROLOW - SEN'SHIN - to the east KOWYLINSKIJ - coast of river CHIR.
Full extent of a front line (measurement on direct pieces) is equal 14.7 km.
In the bottom part of a map there is a table with the indication of forces of units 40th GRD.
The data from this table are shown below - my insert. Yuri
]

Staff and arms

111th Guards Rifle Regiment
Staff:
… active bayonets: … - 29 men;
Arms
… rifles: … - 11;
… PPSh: … - 12;
… a heavy machine gun: … --;
… a manual machine gun: … - 5;
… 50 mm a mortar: … --;
… 82 mm a mortar: … - 6;
… 120 mm a mortar: … - 5;
… a gun of 45 mm: … - 4;
… a gun of 76 mm: … - 3;
… AT a rifles: …-;
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116 th Guards Rifle Regiment
Staff:
… active bayonets: … - 66 men;
Arms
… rifles: … - 17;
… PPSh: … - 30;
… a heavy machine gun: … - 5;
… a manual machine gun: … - 14;
… 50 mm a mortar: … - 1;
… 82 mm a mortar: … - 5;
… 120 mm a mortar: … - 3;
… a gun of 45 mm: … - 6;
… a gun of 76 mm: … - 4;
… AT a rifles: …- 6;
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119th Guards Rifle Regiment
Staff:
… active bayonets: … - 109 men;
Arms
… rifles: … - 49;
… PPSh: … - 37;
… a heavy machine gun: … - 4;
… a manual machine gun: … - 8;
… 50 mm a mortar: … --;
… 82 mm a mortar: … - 9;
… 120 mm a mortar: … - 4;
… a gun of 45 mm: … - 7;
… a gun of 76 mm: … - 4;
… AT a rifles: …- 5;
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Educational battalion
Staff:
… active bayonets: … - 18 men;
Arms
… rifles: … - ;
… PPSh: … - 18;
… a heavy machine gun: … --;
… a manual machine gun: … - 1;
… 50 mm a mortar: … --;
… 82 mm a mortar: … - 4;
… 120 mm a mortar: … - -;
… a gun of 45 mm: … - -;
… a gun of 76 mm: … - -;
… AT a rifles: …-;
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Machine-gun battalion
Staff:
… active bayonets: … - 30 men;
Arms
… rifles: … - -;
… PPSh: … - 30;
… a heavy machine gun: … - 9;
… a manual machine gun: … - 1;
… 50 mm a mortar: … --;
… 82 mm a mortar: … - 6;
… 120 mm a mortar: … - 5;
… a gun of 45 mm: … - 4;
… a gun of 76 mm: … - 5;
… AT a rifles: …- 6;
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All
Staff:
… active bayonets: … - 251 men;
Arms
… rifles: … - 77;
… PPSh: … - 127;
… a heavy machine gun: … -18;
… a manual machine gun: … - 29;
… 50 mm a mortar: … -1;
… 82 mm a mortar: … - 24;
… 120 mm a mortar: … - 12;
… a gun of 45 mm: … - 17;
… a gun of 76 mm: … - 11;
… AT a rifles: …-17;
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Tactical density of defense of a division on one kilometer of front:

Guns of 22 mm: - 0,25*
Guns of 76 mm: - 2*
Guns of 45 mm: - 1,7*
Mortars: - 2,5
Heavy machine guns: - 1,2
Manual machine guns: - 2
Rifles and PPSh: - 14
Active bayonets: - 17

The chief of a staff 40th Guards Rifle Division
guards the lieutenant colonel /MOROZOW/

The chief of operative branch
guards the major /FEDOROW/
* - guns artillery a regiment of a division are taken into account - my note. Yuri
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Characteristic feature in actions German command was that during all period of war Wermacht used on a forward front line as infantry, so-called, battles groups.
And, these battles groups were created from military units which initially had no any preparation for conducting infantry fight. Very much frequently it happened so, that the structure of these battles groups included even halfmilitary and even civil formations.

The above-stated document evidently shows hopelessness of practice of creation and application as such infantry battles groups.
We can see, that for neutralization of great strengths which had battles groups on Chir's front, command of 5-th tank army allocated very few the forces.
So, for example, on a site of front of defense 40th GRD the superiority of forces battle group "STAHEL" above forces of this division was more than 1:10.
Even more striking contrast in forces (for the benefit of battle group) was observed on that site of Chir's front where divisions of the 8-th Cavalry Corps operated.
For example, on a site of 21-st Mountain Cavalry Division the superiority of the opponent reached the relation from 1:20 till 1:25 .
Safely having bared sites of front in a strip of action battles groups «STAHEL" and "SHPANG", command of 5-th Tank Army has thrown forces released therefrom on that site where operated XLVIII Panzer Corps.
Thus use of forces of this German Tank Corps in offensive operation «Winter thunder-storm» has been prevented.

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Post by Yuri » 19 Jul 2006 19:51

On November, 17, 1942 on station Morozowskaja has arrived 354 IR 213 ID - the commander a regiment the colonel von RECOWSKI. In Morozowskaja 354 IR 213 ID has arrived from Lisichansk.

After reception of news about the beginning of the big approach Russian from area Sirafimowich, 354 IR 213 ID it was put forward on a boundary of the river Chir where has borrowed defense in area WARLAMOFF. A strip of defense 354 IR 213 ID on river CHIR: - WARLAMOFF, UST '-GRJAZNOWSKIJ.

After arrival in the appointed area unit of the colonel von REKOWSKI (or RECOVSKI; ïî-ðóññêè ôîí ÐÅÊÎÂÑÊÈ) has received significant updating. Everyone company 354 IR 213 ID has received either security, or police, or a modular battalion.
So, for example, 1-n a company of 1-st battalion has received 4-th security battalion.
Each of three company 4-th security battalion had 90 Germans, 25 Romanian and 15 Ukraine.
After that 4-th security battalion has received the name grenadierial.
The commander 1-st company of 1-st battalion ober-leitenant PEMAT.

The commander of 1-st battalion major KLIWITS.
The commander of 2-nd battalion major MAJA (or MEIJA, in Russian - ÌÀß; Field Post ¹ 07577).
The surname of the commander of 3-rd battalion is not established yet.

Thus, on river CHIR 354 IR 213 ID has turned actually to an infantry brigade.
354 IR 213 ID operated in close communication with 129 IR (mot.) 22 Pz. Div. which borrowed defense in CHERNYSCHEWSKAJA.
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Post by cpa95 » 19 Jul 2006 20:28

Hi Yuri,

Sicherungsdivision 213/renamed 213. Grenadierdivsion defended on the left wing of XXIX. Korps.
The division (IR 354/213. GD) was supported by "Panzerkampfgruppe/22. PD" (Oberst v. Oppeln-Bronikowski with Staff PR 204, Panzerkampfstaffel 22. PD, Pz.Pio.Komp 140 (SPW) and 2/3 of the armoured elements of 22. PD, incl. PGR 129) in the middle of December 1942. She supported the 213. GD during the the defense of Bokowskaja/Waramov-Prokowskij. PR 204 lost 4 tanks.

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Post by Yuri » 13 Aug 2006 00:32

In the beginning of November, 1942 in Malachoff (it to northeast from Chernyschewskaja) has arrived 2-nd and 3-rd railway battalions.
These units of profit in Malachoff for performance of works on construction of a branch of the narrow-gauge railway. This branch line was supposed to be constructed from Obliwskaja on the north to Don.
When on November, 19th Russian 5-th Tank Army has broken through front of defense the Romanian in area of settlement Bolschoy (Big) both it German of a railway battalion have been taken off from works and are directed for occupation of defense along river Zuzkan to northeast from Pichugin.
On November, 22nd these units have receded on the West for river Chir to Nowomoskowka (to the north from Chernyschewskaja).
When on November, 25th the rest 22 Pz. Div. have left from an encircle and occupied Chernyschewskaja, apparently, 2-nd and 3-rd railway battalions became will obey to this division.
By the moment of arrival in Malachoff each of these battalions had on 700 person.

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Post by Yuri » 13 Aug 2006 18:47

I looked prospecting reports of a staff of the Voronezh front and have seen a little bit information about battle group Sibert (or Zibert) of corps type. Probably, this information will be useful to someone.
That it was clear, where operated battle group Sibert and in what there was her task, I give those parts of the document which can be useful for this purpose.
The place in the document is the most important I has allocated with color.

Prospecting report of a staff of Voronezh front No 31 about position of the opponent

On January, 31st, 1943 06 hour of 00 minutes

During 30/1/43 rests of the surrounded parts of the opponent in area to the east Kastornoe with fights continued a withdrawal, throwing technics and burning settlements. On other sites of front the opponent continued a withdrawal in the western direction, being covered arergard.
The aircraft of the opponent of activity did not show. By single planes conducted investigation on a battlefield and in rear to a meridian Borisoglebsk.
Everything, on incomplete data, about 100 plane-starts is noted.

Ostrogozhsk - Valujki a direction

The surrounded parts of the opponent (186 IR 68 ID, a ski battalion 45 ID, the rests 199 IR 57 ID and the Hungarian parts) during 30/1/43 showed resistance in area Jasenki, Kulevka, Nizhnedevitsk. 1 (one) modular shelfs of Germans in Stary Oskol, being in a full environment. Force up to a battalion of infantry unsuccessfully tried to break in direction Verhne-Atamanskoe (3 km to a southwest from Stary Oskol). On other sites a direction the opponent continued to show resistance on former boundaries.

Up to a regiment of infantry (the rests 128 IR 68 ID and 199 IR 57 ID) by 11.00 have been beaten out from Nizhnedevitsk, thus is taken in a captivity up to 1200 soldier and officers. By an outcome of day clearing of settlements of fine groups of the submachine gunners sitting in houses and on attics proceeded.
Within day the opponent has been beaten out from Nikolaevka (10 km to the south Kastornoe), Nikolskoe, Alekseyevka, ZHernovtsy (all settlements of 20-24 km þãî-to the west Kastornoe) and fine groups departed in a northwest direction.

By an outcome of day 29/1 opponent force up to a battalion of infantry of a unstated belonging with fight has broken from Verhne-Atamanskoe on Gumny where has incorporated with Stary Oskol garrison.

The captured major - the commander 3/199 IR 57 ID, grasped 29/1/43 in area Pershino (5 km to the south Nizhnedevitsk), at interrogation has shown:
14/1/43 has been generated corps group Sibert (the commander 57 ID) in structure: of 164, 199 IR 57 ID, 196 IR 63 ID, 246 IR 88 ID, ski battalions 45 ID and 63 ID, the rests 3 AK Hungarians and other units. The group had a task to defend a boundary Verchne Nikolskoe (14 km to northeast from Sinie Lipjagi), Sinie Lipjagi, Staro-Melovoe with the purpose of covering of a withdrawal of the Voronezh grouping.
27/1/43 garrison Sini Lipjagi in structure of 199 IR, a ski battalion 45 ID, the rests 3 AK Hungarians an aggregate number up to 1700 person has received the order on an exit from an encircled in direction Nizhnedevitsk. In fight in area Pershino 199 IR has carried big losses, the rests a regiment have broken in area Nizhnedevitsk.


On site Kastornoe, Lachinovo following trophies are grasped: motor vehicles - 700, railway echelons - 8, steam locomotives - 12, horses - 5000, it is a lot of warehouses, over 5000 captured, belonging 88, 68, 323 ID Germans and to the rests of the Hungarian units.
By aircraft it is established:
13.20 in Skorydnoe a congestion up to 200 motor vehicles and up to a battalion of infantry. On a site from Flat (10 km to the east Marino) on the river the Diet up to Korovino are made excavations. In Korovino the congestion up to 150 motor vehicles is noted. From Korovino to Aleksandrovka (38 km to the east of Kursk) are noted intensive bilaterial movement of motor vehicles and vehicles.

Rossoshansk a direction

During 30/1/43 opponent the rests of the broken parts of Hungarians and Italians showed fire resistance to actions of our parts on boundary Veliko-Mikhailovka, Afonevka, Verhnie-Lubjanki (8 km to a southwest from Volokonovki).
29/1/43 opponent force up to company of infantry a regiment «Great Germany» attacked our divisions on Verhnie Lubjanki in east direction. Counterattack of the opponent is beaten off with big for him losses. From other sites of a direction data about position of the opponent did not act.

By radioprospecting it is established:

24/1/43 in Glushets, CHervatenko, Klimovka (all points 5-10 of km to a southeast from Vorozhba), Vorozhba has arrived up to 15 000 German both Hungarian soldier and officers who 29/1/43 should go on front


The chief of a staff of the Voronezh front
general-lieutenant of KOZAKOW
The chief of a prospecting department of a staff of the Voronezh front
colonel KORNEEV
CAMD RF
f. 203, i. 2874, f. 42, s. 170-176
[RA. GPW. vol. 15 -4(3), p. 85-87]
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For completeness of a picture about a situation in area of Stary Oskol in the end of January the beginning of February, 1943 one more document
Combat report Commander armies of the Voronezh front to Supreme Commander in Chief about end of an encircled a grouping of the opponent in area of Stary Oskol and Gorschechnoe.

On February, 4th, 1943 22 hour of 00 minutes

On January, 29th, 1943 armies of the Voronezh front in area Stary Oskol and Gorschechnoe had been surrounded a large grouping of the opponent by an aggregate number up to 20 000 person. During last days this grouping has been separated and subjected to our parts to destruction. As a result of fights from her structure it is destroyed nearby 5000 and it is taken in a captivity 8050 person.

All attempts surrounded to break through a ring of our armies have failed. Under indications taken in a captivity (with the staff) the commander of 3-rd Army Corps of Hungarians general-major Schtomm, in the closed ring the environment remains 5 thousand soldier and officers. Rears, transports, motor transport of this grouping are destroyed.

Surrounded feel sharp lack of an ammunition and the foodstuffs. There is a plenty freezed. The grasped trophies are counted up.
During approach of our armies to the west of city Voronezh from January, 25th till February, 4th this year only is taken by armies of the Voronezh front in a captivity 22 000 soldier and officers of the opponent.

FILLIPOV
FEDOTOV
FEDOROV
CAMD RF
f. 203, i. 2843, f. 301, s. 63-64
RA. GPW. vol. 15 -4(3), p. 87-88
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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 01 Sep 2006 23:16

Staff and arms

111th Guards Rifle Regiment
Staff:
… active bayonets: … - 29 men;
Arms
… rifles: … - 11;
… PPSh: … - 12;
… a heavy machine gun: … --;
… a manual machine gun: … - 5;
… 50 mm a mortar: … --;
… 82 mm a mortar: … - 6;
… 120 mm a mortar: … - 5;
… a gun of 45 mm: … - 4;
… a gun of 76 mm: … - 3;
… AT a rifles: …-;
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Dear Yuri

Let me see if I understand these number correctly - the regiment had 11 men armed with rifles, 12 with SMG plus 5 MG's , 6 82mm, 5 120mm, 4 45mm and 3 76mm (I presume these were not crewed by the man with rifles and SMG's there were more men.

A staff of 29 men could not man all those weapons so i'm confuesd as to what "staff " means. Could ypou please clarify?

Thanks

Bob

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Post by Yuri » 02 Sep 2006 08:22

Bob_Mackenzie wrote: A staff of 29 men could not man all those weapons so i'm confuesd as to what "staff " means. Could ypou please clarify?
The term «an active bayonet » means one ordinary soldier or one NCO who has no clearing the doctor of participation in fighting work. However in a regiment there are soldiers and NCO, which have (on a condition of the health) clearing of the doctor of participation in fighting work (it is easily wounded, easily contused or easily patients). Only in case of emergency it is easy wounded both easily sick soldiers and sergeants participate in fight.
Besides the term «an active bayonet» does not take into account number of officers in a regiment. At small number of soldiers and NCO officers, as a rule, carry out functions of members of crews.
Thus, full number of people in a regiment will be more than number of active bayonets.
In view of told it is possible to assume, that the aggregate number of people in a regiment was about 100 person.

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 02 Sep 2006 11:27

Thanks Yuri

So there are 29 fully fit men in this unit, an unknown number of officers and an unknown number with light woulds and minor illnesses who can and did man wepaons?

Cheers

Bob

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Post by Arensburger » 02 Sep 2006 13:53

Yuri wrote:At night to December, 7th for December, 8th, 1942 on site Gr. «Adam» there was very interesting episode. It seems to me, that this episode deserves that about him to tell some words separately.
As is known, battle group of colonel Adam operated in a corner formed with current of rivers Don and Chir.
This battle group kept the railway bridge through the river Don.
During too time Russian 8ã ÑÏ (8 Guard Rifle Regiment) has grasped here a small site to the railway on a site between the bridge and settlement Rychkovsky (station Rychkov).
It can be seen in the right bottom corner of a map:
http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php? ... st&id=3531
Yuri
Yuri, thank you very much, for link you gave. This map helps me a lot. My interest is, do research the history of Est.Schutzmannschafts-Front-Btl. 36 and specially hes champagne by Stalingrad front. This map is exactly from this place and this time.
On his way to Salingrad a railroad train of Est.Schutzmannschafts-Front-Btl. 36 fall under soviet mortar fire in the railway station Surovikino 08.30 in the morning of 22.11.1942. Some actions come about already by north outskirt of Surovikino. Btl. was quickly unloaded and 09.30 on the defense positions. After attack actions at 15.00 Btl. went over to defense on the line Nizny Osinovski, Lukitsevski, Starikovski, Zirkov. At the evening co. of btl. maj. Julius Renter felling out and commanding of battalion taking over oberleutenant Harald Riipalu, former co. of 3. company. Est.Schutzmannschafts-Front-Btl. 36 being subordinated to kampfgruppe Oberst Schmidt.
Est.btl. involved in the battles of this area until the end of the year 1942. 31.12.42 in Verhnie Aksenovski.
Do you have some documents about this btl.? By this area btl. lost 11 soldiers as missing in action. Probably taken to POW by Russians. Ten of these men are from I/3. and III/3. whose positions by north outskirts of Surovikino being penetrated in 1.12.42. Positions are taken back by reserves and II/3.
Also, headquarters of 36.Bat. losing a truck with boxes of documentation of Bat. 11.12.42 at 20.00 location of headquarters Tsuvilevski being attacked from 3 side. By the retreat to Novi Derbenovski truck was lost, probably in Tsuvilevsky.

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Post by -Michael » 08 Sep 2006 10:48

KAMPFGRUPPE SCHELLONG
Kdr.u.SS-Ostubaf. Konrad Schellong
I.Btl./SS-Frw.Gren.Rgt.67
Btl.Kdr.u.SS-Hstuf. Wilhelm Rehmann
II.Btl./SS-Frw.Gren.Rgt.66
Btl.Kdr.u.SS-Stubaf. Johannes Oehms
SS-Pz.Jg.Abt.27
Abt.Kdr.u.SS-Stubaf. Eckehard Wangemann
Oder-Front 01.1945 - 04.1945

KAMPFGRUPPE HELLEBAUT
Kdr.u.SS-Stubaf. Frans Hellebaut
I.Btl./SS-Frw.Gren.Rgt.69 (Wallonien)
Btl.Kdr.u.SS-Hstuf. Derriks
II.Btl./SS-Frw.Gren.Rgt.66 (Langemarck)
Btl.Kdr.u.SS-Stubaf. Jan de Meulder
Pz.Jagd-Abt.6
Sturmbtl.Kolberg
Oder-Front 21.04.1945 - 22.04.1945

Source: 'Vlaanderen in Uniform'

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Post by -Michael » 08 Sep 2006 11:00

SS-DIVISIONSGRUPPE MÜLLER
Kommandeur und SS-Standartenführer Thomas Müller

Kampfgruppe der 27. SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division Langemarck
- Kommandeur und SS-Obersturmbannführer Konrad Schellong
SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Regiment 66
I. Batallion/SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Regiment 66
- Batallionskommandeur und SS-Sturmbannführer Johannes Oehms
II. Batallion/SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Regiment 66
- Batallionskommandeur und SS-Sturmbannführer Jan de Meulder
SS-Pionier-Batallion 27
- Batallionskommandeur und SS-Hauptsturmführer Heinrich Bauch

Kampfgruppe der 28. SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Division Wallonien
- Kommandeur und SS-Obersturmbannführer Léon Degrelle
SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Regiment 69
- Regimentskommandeur und SS-Sturmbannführer Frans Hellebaut
I. Batallion/SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Regiment 69
- Batallionskommandeur und SS-Hauptsturmführer Derriks
II. Batallion/SS-Freiwilligen-Grenadier-Regiment 69
- Batallionskommandeur und SS-Hauptsturmführer Bonniver

SS-Artillerie-Regiment 27
- Regimentskommandeur und SS-Obersturmbannführer Arentoft Holger
SS-Nachrichtenabteilung 27
Panzer-Jagd-Abteilung 6

Oder-Front 16.04.1945 - 20.04.1945

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Post by Andreas » 24 Nov 2006 17:00

Michi wrote:I will try to ask someone, if the russian script (cyrillic) can be used.
For Yuri's posts, using Internet Explorer, setting the encoding to "Cyrillic DOS" is working for me.

All the best

Andreas

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Post by Maigewitter » 26 Nov 2006 02:47

In the informations about my grandfather from the Wast, there appears the "Kampfgruppe Mann" (XXVIII. Armee-Korps). I havent found yet any infos about this unit, so could maybe somebody help me?

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Post by David W » 14 Jun 2007 08:41

No North Africa Kampfgruppe?

Are they elsewhere on the forum?

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