A question of the Panzerfaust

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Vapor Trail
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A question of the Panzerfaust

Post by Vapor Trail » 18 Mar 2002 19:12

Hello,

After scrolling down the Feldgrau forums, I noticed that one guy named Craig built a Panzerfaust.

Does anyone have any directions or books to suggest that I could build one of these with? Does anyone have a good recipe :twisted: ???

I think it would be cool, and i'll be safe.

Can anyone here tell me how to build one?

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Shaped charges and other stuff

Post by Ovidius » 18 Mar 2002 19:37

:idea: Take a look here:

http://www.geocities.com/Augusta/8172/panzerfaust.htm

for comprehensive info on ALL anti-tank weapons used by the Germans in WWII, including:

- chemical compounds used;

- structure of a shaped charge;

- detailed descrption of a Panzerfaust

~Regards,

Ovidius

Vapor Trail
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Post by Vapor Trail » 18 Mar 2002 19:39

Thanks Ovi :)

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Helly Angel
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Post by Helly Angel » 18 Mar 2002 21:40

I can´t remember where but I saw in the net a site where sell several replicas of Panzerfaust 60. The price is 50 $ I think.

Let me see

Dan Feltmate
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Post by Dan Feltmate » 18 Mar 2002 21:44

Would they still work and be explosive?

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Erich
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Panzerfaust

Post by Erich » 18 Mar 2002 22:11

Dan :

Remeber it is a replica and not an origianl so it may not be able to fire. Save your bucks and purchase one off the many militaria sites for around $ 500.00 or so. I own a Panzerschreck 54 which I purchased back in the early 70's. Have had to clear it with the local governmental authorities and reset assured if I had a rocket(s) for this unit I would tell no one. For the Panzerfaust I wouldn't even think of firing an original due to the many years that have gone by for the weapon......fault electrical fittings and the like.

do as you wish though but be fore warned.......

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Post by Dan Feltmate » 18 Mar 2002 22:22

I would rather not purchase a real or a replica.

The problem with purchasing an original is just that, I don't want to ruin something that has a historical importance to me. It would leave me with a guilt. And with a replica, I would appreciate one that fires.

If I can manage to make my own kind of Panzerfaust somewhat similar to the orignal plans, then I shall be quite happy.

I live dangerously. Heh heh heh.

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Erich
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Post by Erich » 18 Mar 2002 23:12

Dan :

Just don't be stupid. As far as feldgrau is concerned, I really wonder if the claimants really did make one or just blowing off way Kühl air....... ?

By the way I am a part-time private mountain guide, so I know well enough what living dangerously is all about.

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MadJim
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panzerfaust

Post by MadJim » 21 Mar 2002 14:42

Dude if you really live in Florida and do not have a license from BATF to construct destructive devices don't try to build a live device. Upon conviction - and somebody always blabs - you will get 10 years.

MadJim

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Zapfenstreich
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Panzerfaust/RPG

Post by Zapfenstreich » 22 Mar 2002 05:40

How do the RPG's, that are so popular in Afghanistan and Africa, compare to the German Panzerfaust weapon of WWII?

Is the method of firing and propulsion similar? How about maximum effective range and explosive power? They look rather similar to me.

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RPG

Post by Ovidius » 22 Mar 2002 09:31

The Russian and Eastern-Bloc made RPG's are outwardly similar to the Panzerfaust, but unlike the single-use-only Panzerfaust, they are reloadable and reusable weapons.

The closest modern weapon to the Panzerfaust seems to be the American single-use-only bazooka.

~Ovidius

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Oleg Grigoryev
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Post by Oleg Grigoryev » 22 Mar 2002 09:49

RPG-29

Calibre, mm 105
Round weight, kg 6.7
Grenade launcher weight, kg 11.5
Aimed fire range, m 500
Max obstacle penetration,up to, mm:
homogeneous armour after penetration of explosive reactive armour (at normal) 750
reinforced concrete 1,500
brick 1,500
log-and-earth 3,700
Operational temperature range, °C ±50



RPG-7V1

Calibre, mm 40
Weight with bipod and optical sight, kg 7
Length, mm 950


Grenades Characteristics


PG-7VL PG-7VR TBG-7V
Type of WH single-stage high-explosive tandem high-explosive single-stage thermobaric
Calibre, mm 93 105 105
Weight of round, kg 2.6 4.5 4.5
Aiming range, m 300 200 200
Penetration, not less than, mm:
homogeneous armoured steel 600
homogeneous armoured steel after ERA piercing 750
reinforced concrete 1,300 1,500
brick 1,700 2,000
log-and-earth 2,500 3,700

RPG-26 RPG-27 RShG-1
Calibre, mm 72.5 105 105
Type anti-tank anti-tank assault
Weight, kg 2.9 8 8
Aiming range, m 250 200 200
Armour penetration, mm 500
Max obstacle penetration, not less than, mm:
homogeneous armour after ERA penetration (normal) 750
reinforced concrete 1,000 1,500
brick 1,500 2,000
log-and-earth 2,400 3,700
Operational temperature range, °C ±50 ±50 ±50
Length, mm 770 1,155 1,155

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...and then we have the good ol´swedish m/68

Post by Ljunggren » 22 Mar 2002 13:11

The Pansarskott m/68 was designed to replace the old pansarskott m/46. Of much more modern design it was clear improvement and must be considered superior to its contemporaries such as the M72 LAW that used a rocket instead of a grenade and had a smaller calibre leading to inferior penetrention and effect behind armor. The m/68 was still easily portable but not telescopic like the M72. It had an effective range of up to 150 meters and 74mm calibre guaranteed penetrention of all APCs of its time and a fighting chanse to take out tanks if fired from the flank in numbers. The range was still limited and the main antitank fire power was in the Grg m/48 of the squad/platoon or the 9 cm recoilless rifle at companylevel. The sight was a bit complicated and took some time training to be effective. A 9 mm subcalibre training weapon was used. Compared to the Pansarskott m/86 or AT-4 it is a very inferior weapon but it was adequate for its day and none had any better.

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RPG/Panzerfaust

Post by Zapfenstreich » 22 Mar 2002 18:21

Thanks for all the information. I thought the RPG was a one shot weapon like the panzerfaust but, apparently, it's fired from a reusable launcher.

If you look at the old combat footage from Somalia and at what's coming out of Afghanistan now, you'd think that every child born in those two countries was presented with an RPG at birth.

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