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Stroop Report: The Warsaw Guetto is no more.

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Post by Helly Angel » 18 Mar 2002, 21:41

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The cover page of a copy of the Stroop Report, entitled "The Jewish Quarter of Warsaw is no more!"


In early January 1943, Himmler visited Warsaw and discovered that tens of thousands of "unessential" Jews were still present in the ghetto. Himmler ordered an immediate operation to once again weed out the "useless eaters." [...]

Stroop's seventy-five-page, day-by-day account of the operation, prepared for Himmler and first displayed by Jackson for the judges during his opening address, was entitled The Warsaw Ghetto Is No More. The assistant prosecutor dealing with the persecution of the Jews referred to it as "the finest example of ornate German craftsmanship, leather bound, profusely illustrated, typed on heavy bond paper ... the almost unbelievable recital of the proud accomplishment by Major General of Police Stroop."

Conot, Justice at Nuremberg, 1983, pp. 269-70.



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Surrounded by heavily armed SS and SD guards, SS Major General Juergen Stroop (center), watches housing blocks burn during the suppression of the Warsaw ghetto uprising.


In this link you can read all th Stroop Report about the destruction of Warsaw Guetto:

http://www.holocaust-history.org/works/ ... ro000.htm.

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Post by Wiking » 18 Mar 2002, 21:47

@Helly Angel : thank your for the informative article and the great pictures. The Stroop Report is one of the important documents we have, to bring us evidence about the mass killing of Jews.
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Stroop on Treblinka

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Post by Helly Angel » 18 Mar 2002, 23:17

Stroop on Treblinka

by Jamie McCarthy
translations by Gord McFee

Holocaust-deniers claim that the Treblinka death camp was in fact merely a transit camp, where Jews were kept for a short while before being sent to work somewhere else. [1] It is strange that none of them has commented on the explicit descriptions to the contrary in the well-known "Stroop Report."



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Treblinka was one of the three "Action Reinhard" death camps. Together with Belzec and Sobibor, it served as the destination for well over a million people - almost exclusively Jews - who were killed immediately upon arrival. Except for a small camp complement of prisoners and SS to perform the killing actions, none of the arrivals survived their stay at the camp.

Treblinka was the last of the three to be built. Construction began in May/June of 1942 and the first exterminations began in July. In the first five weeks a quarter-million were killed in this one camp alone. Larger gas chambers were built in September and the exterminations resumed. Before the camp was closed, 800,000 human beings lost their lives within this sixty-acre plot of land. [2]

The dismantlement of Treblinka began after Himmler's visit to the headquarters of Operation Reinhard and the death camps in late February and early March 1943. Before the camp could be closed, the bodies of eight hundred thousand victims still had to be exhumed and incinerated and other work done to obliterate all incriminating eidence. In March and April 1943 a few convoys arrived from the destroyed Warsaw ghetto, from Yugoslavia, and from Greece, but this hardly delayed the razing of the camp. [3]

As SS-Sergeant Franz Suchomel described it:

"Treblinka was a primitive but efficient production line of death. Understand? Primitive, yes. But it worked well, that production line of death." [4]

In January 1943, Heinrich Himmler visited the Warsaw Ghetto, where tens of thousands of Jews still remained after having been concentrated there for the last three years. He ordered it cleaned out. SS-Brigadeführer (Major-General) Jürgen Stroop was assigned this task and took his military troops to fight the starving Jews. The operation began in April 1943.

This operation was unlike most others performed against the Jews for several reasons. Those who remained in the ghetto knew their cause was hopeless, as they had witnessed hundreds of thousands sent to their deaths since July 1942. They fought back with great determination. They lacked for military weapons but, mostly with improvised explosives and the few rifles they had, managed to delay Stroop's operation for four weeks and to kill many Nazis in the process. [5]



Stroop commemorated his successful "murder expedition" [6] by producing a 75-page book, plus 50 pages of photographs, about the event. Consisting largely of telegrams about the operation, this book is a very important historical record. The so-called "Stroop Report" has never had its authenticity challenged, even (to our knowledge) by Holocaust-deniers who reject incriminating documents almost as a matter of course.

The telegrams on four particular days reveal facts about Treblinka, however, which Holocaust-deniers may prefer to ignore. Its T-II camp, [7] where the exterminations took place, is explicitly identified as the destination for the "liquidation" and "destruction" of captured Jews.

The last mass exterminations at Treblinka took place after an uprising of the Jewish prisoners in August 1943, and the last equipment was dismantled by the remaining Jews (who were then shot) that November.


April 25, 1943:

In total, 1690 Jews were captured alive. According to stories from the Jews, there have definitely also been parachutists dropped here and bandits who have been supplied weapons from an unknown location. 274 Jews were shot, and as on other days, uncounted Jews were buried alive in the blown-up bunkers and, as near as can be determined, burned. With today's bounty of Jews, a very large portion of the bandits and lowest elements of the Ghetto has, in my opinion, been captured. Immediate liquidation was not carried out due to the onset of darkness. I will attempt to obtain a train for T II for tomorrow, otherwise the liquidations will be carried out tomorrow.

April 26, 1943:

At this time there are no more captured Jews in Warsaw. The previously mentioned transport to T.II was successful.

May 13, 1943:

The few Jews and criminals still remaining in the ghetto have for 2 days used the refuges available in the ruins in order to go back to their well-known bunkers at night, and there to eat and supply themselves for the next day. No evidence on further bunkers known to them can be obtained from the captured Jews. The rest of the inhabitants, where the fire fight took place, were destroyed by the strongest explosive charges. From a Wehrmacht operation 327 Jews were captured today. These captured Jews will only be sent to T.II.

May 24, 1943:

Of the overall total of 56,065 captured Jews, about 7,000 have been destroyed in the course of the large-scale action in the former Jewish living quarter. 6,929 Jews were destroyed by transport to T. II, so that overall, 13,929 Jews were destroyed. It is estimated that, in addition to the number of 56,065, 5 - 6,000 Jews were destroyed by explosions and fire.
In this last entry, the most explicit, we have translated the German word "vernichtet" as "destroyed." It is incidentally the same word used to refer to the destruction of bunkers. Other acceptable translations would be "exterminated" or "annihilated." There is no doubt as to its meaning.



Inspired by research by Dr. Daniel Keren.





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Notes
1. For example, see Weber, Mark and Andrew Allen, "Treblinka," Journal of Historical Review, Vol. 12, p. 133, available at http://ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_Allen.html. Despite acknowledging that human ashes were found buried on the Treblinka site to a depth of twenty feet, the "revisionist" authors conclude:

...there is no hard or compelling evidence that Treblinka was a mass extermination center where hundreds of thousands of Jews were systematically put to death. To the contrary, credible reports of transfers of Jews from Treblinka eastwards to the occupied Soviet territories, the relative lack of secrecy and security in the camp, and the small size of the area where the bodies were supposedly buried, all suggest instead that this was a transit center.

2. Kogon, Eugen, Hermann Langbein and Adalbert Rückerl, Nazi Mass Murder, 1993, pp. 124ff, 131ff. Camp area is an estimate.

3. Ibid, p. 136.

4. SS Unterscharführer Franz Suchomel, interviewed on hidden camera for the film Shoah. Transcript from the book of the same name, Claude Lanzmann, 1985, p. 54.

5. Snyder, Louis, Encyclopedia of the Third Reich, 1976, p. 374.

6. This was the term coined by Colonel-General Alfred Jodl:

The dirty arrogant SS swine! Imagine writing a 75-page boastful report on a little murder expedition, when a major campaign fought by soldiers against a well-armed army takes only a few pages.

Reitlinger, Gerald, The Final Solution, 1953, p. 276, citing G.M. Gilbert, Nuremberg Diary, 1947, p. 69.

7. "T II" is not often mentioned, but it is indeed the name of the extermination portion of the Treblinka camp. For an example of Holocaust-deniers acknowledging this, even as they deny other facts, see Weber and Allen, op cit.

http://www.holocaust-history.org/stroop-on-treblinka/

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Post by Wiking » 18 Mar 2002, 23:57

It is strange that none of them has commented on the explicit descriptions to the contrary in the well-known "Stroop Report."
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And let me add that it is strange that we have no eye-witness of TII as a "transit camp", but we have many reports that it had been an EC - the final destination mainly for polish jews.
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Weber-Allen article

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Post by Scott Smith » 19 Mar 2002, 04:02

The above link to the Weber-Allen article doesn't work but here is one that does:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_Allen.html

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I Get Such A Kick Out of Pictures Like That!!

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Post by David C. Clarke » 19 Mar 2002, 05:03

Just look at the cool leather jackets, the arrogant grins, the devil-may- care poses. Gee, where were good old Juergen and the SS boys when the Heroic Red Army crossed the Vistula in 1944--running like Hell I'd bet. Cheers, Commissar D :twisted:

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Re: I Get Such A Kick Out of Pictures Like That!!

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Post by Scott Smith » 19 Mar 2002, 09:37

Commissar D the EviL wrote:Just look at the cool leather jackets, the arrogant grins, the devil-may- care poses. Gee, where were good old Juergen and the SS boys when the Heroic Red Army crossed the Vistula in 1944--running like Hell I'd bet. Cheers, Commissar D :twisted:
Good one. The thing is, in wartime you kick some ass and then you get some ass kicked. That's the way it worked then and that's the way it works now.
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Post by Publius » 19 Mar 2002, 12:38

Scott wrote:
Good one. The thing is, in wartime you kick some ass and then you get some ass kicked. That's the way it worked then and that's the way it works now.
Yeah, in this instance Stroop & co. heroically kicked the ass of a bunch of starved civilians deprived of everything and armed primarily with antiquities who refused to go quitetly to their death, but got their asses kicked when countering the army they themselves choose to assault.

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Re: I Get Such A Kick Out of Pictures Like That!!

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Post by Roberto » 19 Mar 2002, 13:22

Scott Smith wrote:
Commissar D the EviL wrote:Just look at the cool leather jackets, the arrogant grins, the devil-may- care poses. Gee, where were good old Juergen and the SS boys when the Heroic Red Army crossed the Vistula in 1944--running like Hell I'd bet. Cheers, Commissar D :twisted:
Good one. The thing is, in wartime you kick some ass and then you get some ass kicked. That's the way it worked then and that's the way it works now.
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Except that what Jodl contemptuously called Stroop’s “little murder expedition” does not qualify as “kicking the ass” of a military enemy let alone compare to the fighting on the Eastern Front, which heroes such as Stroop avoided like the vampire does the cross.

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Re: Weber-Allen article

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Post by Roberto » 19 Mar 2002, 13:30

Scott Smith wrote:The above link to the Weber-Allen article doesn't work but here is one that does:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p133_Allen.html
One of my favorite “Revisionist” articles, mainly because of the glorious shot in the foot that Weber/Allen gave the “Revisionist” community with the following statements:
In the area where the gas chambers were supposed to have been located, the commission's team of 30 excavation workers reportedly found human remains, partially in the process of decay, and an unspecified amount of ash. Untouched sandy soil was reached at 7.5 meters, at which point the digging was halted. An accompanying photograph of an excavated pit reveals some large bones. (note 63)

Poland's Central Commission for Investigation of German Crimes
reported that large quantities of ashes mixed with sand, among which are numerous human bones, often with the remains of decomposing tissues, were found in the five acre (two hectare) burial area during an examination of the site shortly after the end of the war. (note 64)
See the commentary on that article under

http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/camps/ftp ... linka.9605

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