russian iron cross ????

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russian iron cross ????

Post by rico_nl2003 » 28 Feb 2004 11:50

I saw in a Manions catalog an iron cross 2nd class made by the russians ; the year 1939 was replaced by 1941 and the other side had " for murder and robbery " in german on it. It had an original ribbon. They were put on the bodies of dead german soldiers by the russians. Does any one know more about it ?

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Post by Germania » 28 Feb 2004 15:12

Do you have any pictures?

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Post by Macmedal » 28 Feb 2004 23:31

I think if I recall rightly one of these propaganda crosses is shown in Gordon Williamsons book on the Iron Cross of 1939. It looks pretty convincing from the front (obviously apart form the date change), which is suprising for such an item.

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Post by Sturmman » 29 Feb 2004 11:16

WOW thats a AMAZING story! WOWOWOW does anyone has more info on this topic, maybe a url or a scan from that bokk mentioned!

I love to know more about this! :D :D :D

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Post by Eugene (J. Baker) » 01 Mar 2004 11:57

Here it is :)
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Post by rico_nl2003 » 01 Mar 2004 14:08

Nice pics :D I didn't know that there was also a first class version how were they made ?

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Post by Sturmman » 01 Mar 2004 14:39

WOW nice I never saw those! Could you tell me, are those EK's rare and what is the price for them? A russian EK, if i havent reed this topic, i would have tought it was a bad fake! THNX guys for the education and knowledge! :D :)

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Post by Eugene (J. Baker) » 01 Mar 2004 15:05

rico_nl2003 wrote:Nice pics :D I didn't know that there was also a first class version how were they made ?


Sorry I dont know :) Try Google.

Edited:

I've found some articles in Russian
For example:

http://subscribe.ru/archive/history.sezik/200305/18092241.html
or
http://www.rusgermhist.ru/RusRaboti/RusZhuravel/zhuravel-02-01.htm

but they arent providing any detailed info.

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Post by Bair » 09 Mar 2004 20:02

The mentioned propaganda Iron Cross was made in besieged Leningrad, as Mint of Leningrad had a lot of free capacity and propaganda officers of the Leningrad front were mostly from University or Academy of Arts and were highly creative. The information comes from a book written by a Russian veteran, who was a propaganda officer on the Leningrad front in 1941-1944

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Post by Bernard » 24 Mar 2004 18:45

Damn ! I would kill for one in my collection.

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Post by rico_nl2003 » 25 Mar 2004 10:40

Bernard wrote:Damn ! I would kill for one in my collection.


Be carefull with what you wish for.........you might get it. :D

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Post by Eugene (J. Baker) » 25 Mar 2004 11:06

Bernard wrote:Damn ! I would kill for one in my collection.


Link i provided above selling these things. Try.

Don't kill... make a business :lol:

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Post by Bernard » 25 Mar 2004 13:36

Unfortunatly it's all in russian :(

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Post by Eugene (J. Baker) » 25 Mar 2004 14:22

Bernard wrote:Unfortunatly it's all in russian :(


here is e-mail of this guy who sell it icewarrior@mtu-net.ru Try to write to him in English i pretty believe every Russian using Internet can understand you.

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