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Post by anythingww2 » 16 Mar 2004 03:25

Found this pic here

http://history.acusd.edu/gen/WW2Index/picindex5.html

Gen. Anton Dostler is tied to a stake before his execution by a firing squad in the Aversa stockade. The General was convicted and sentenced to death by an American military tribunal

Anton Dostler was charged with violations of the laws of war in that, as commander of the 75th German Army Corps, he, on or about 24th
March, 1944, in the vicinity of La Spezia, Italy, ordered to be shot summarily a group of United States Army personnel consisting of two officers and 13 enlisted men, who had then recently been captured by forces under General Dostler, which order was carried into execution on or about 26th March, 1944, resulting in the death of the said 15 members of the United States Army
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Post by _The_General_ » 16 Mar 2004 12:56

very interesting foto!

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Post by Max Williams » 16 Mar 2004 13:20

This is a well known photo. I believe there are about 2 or 3 others in the series showing his execution.
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Post by anythingww2 » 16 Mar 2004 23:00

really? would like to see them do you know where i can find them?

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Post by Max Williams » 17 Mar 2004 00:09

anythingww2 wrote:really? would like to see them do you know where i can find them?
I cannot remember where I've seen them.....might be the Imperial War Museum or an old copy of "After the Battle" magazine.
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Post by Daniel L » 17 Mar 2004 00:21

Please use remote linking rather than uploading the images.

Best regards/ Daniel

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Post by anythingww2 » 17 Mar 2004 01:02

OK will do next time .....that image was stored on my hard drive...I added the web site after incase anyone wanted to see the other pics

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Post by John Doe » 17 Mar 2004 01:33

I tried to post the remote link here, but doesn´t work, so i have uploaded it.
Nazi General is Prepared For Execution
An American military doctor marks the position of Nazi German General Anton Dostler's heart as a target for the firing squad just before his execution as a war criminal. Dostler was the first Nazi General executed by an American firing squad.
© Hulton-Deutsch Collection/CORBIS
Date Photographed: 1945

http://pro.corbis.com/
Regards, Javier
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Post by Rommel8 » 17 Mar 2004 02:01

So he is being executed for what?

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Post by anythingww2 » 17 Mar 2004 02:52

Anton Dostler was charged with violations of the laws of war in that, as commander of the 75th German Army Corps, he, on or about 24th March, 1944, in the vicinity of La Spezia, Italy, ordered to be shot summarily a group of United States Army personnel consisting of two officers and 13 enlisted men, who had then recently been captured by forces under General Dostler, which order was carried into execution on or about 26th March, 1944, resulting in the death of the said 15 members of the United States Army.

On the night of 22nd March, 1944, two officers and 13 men of a special reconnaissance battalion disembarked from some United States Navy boats and landed on the Italian coast about 100 kilometres north of La Spezia. The front at the time was at Cassino with a further front at the Anzio beach head. The place of disembarkation was therefore 250 miles behind the then established front. The 15 members of the United States Army were on a bona fide military mission, which was to demolish the railroad tunnel on the mainline between La Spezia and Genoa. On the morning of 24th March, 1944, the entire group was captured by a party consisting of Italian Fascist soldiers and a group of members of the German army. They were brought to La Spezia where they were confined near the headquarters of the 135th Fortress Brigade. The 135th Fortress Brigade was, at that time, commanded by a German Colonel, Almers (who was not before the Military Commission). His next higher headquarters was that of the 75th German Army Corps then commanded by the accused, Anton Dostler. The next higher headquarters was that of the Army Group von Zangen, commanded by the General of the Infantry von Zangen, who was called as a witness in the case. The next higher command was that of the Heeresgruppe C or Heeresgruppe South West, which was at that time under Field Marshal Kesselring.
The captured American soldiers were interrogated in La Spezia by two German Naval Intelligence Officers. In the course of the investigation one of the officers of the American party revealed the story of the mission. On 24th March a report was made by the 135th Fortress Brigade to the 75th Army Corps about the capture. On the next morning (25th March, 1944) a telegram was received at the headquarters of the 135th Fortress Brigade signed by the accused Dostler, saying in substance " the captured Americans will be shot immediately."
On receiving this cable, the commanding officer of the 135th Fortress Brigade and the Naval Officers interrogating the prisoners got into touch with the 75th Army Corps headquarters in order to bring about a stay of the execution. Late on the afternoon of the 25th March, Colonel Almers (then commanding the brigade) received another telegram from 75th Army Corps which said in substance that by 7.0 o’clock the next morning (26th March) he would have reported compliance with the order of execution.
Colonel Almers then gave orders for the conduct of the execution, for the digging of a grave, etc. During the night from Saturday 25th to Sunday, 26th March, two attempts were made by officers of the 135th Fortress Brigade and by the Naval Officers to bring about a change in the decision by telephoning to the accused Dostler. All these attempts having been unsuccessful, the 15 Americans were executed on the 26th March, early in the morning.
They were neither tried, nor given any hearing.
The argument of the Prosecution was that since the deceased had been soldiers of the United States Army, dressed as such and engaged on a genuine military mission, they were entitled to be treated as prisoners of war. Their execution without trial, therefore, was contrary to the Hague Convention.
p.26
of 1907 and to a rule of customary International Law at least 500 or 600 years old.
5. THE EVIDENCE
Witnesses for the Prosecution included a Captain in the United States Army who had directed the operation against the tunnel. He stated that the fifteen soldiers had been bona fide members of the United States Forces ; he also bore witness as to the nature of the mission on which they were sent, and as to the clothing and equipment which they wore. Witnesses for the Prosecution included also an Italian employee of the Todt Organisation and two German Naval Intelligence Officers who gave further evidence regarding the deceased’s, clothing. One of the last two identified a document before the Commission as representing in substance the Führerbefehl to which reference was made by the Defence. (Footnote: See the Appendix, p. 33.) Three ex-members of the Wehrmacht gave evidence of attempts made to induce Dostler to change the order regarding the execution, and on the circumstances of the execution. General Zangen appeared in the witness box, and denied having ordered the execution of the prisoners.
Two depositions and the notes of a preliminary interrogation of General Dostler were also allowed as evidence. The first deposition was made by a German lieutenant in hospital, who bore witness to the contents of the telegram containing Dostler’s orders regarding the immediate execution of the prisoners and to the efforts which were made to avert the latter. The second deposition was made by a Captain in the United States Army who had been present at the exhumation of the bodies of the soldiers. The Defence recalled General Zangen, who bore witness to the accused’s merits as a soldier, and called a second Wehrmacht General, von Saenger, who described the oath which officers of the German Army had had to take on the accession of Hitler to power. As will be seen, General Dostler himself also appeared as a witness under oath.
Although it was not possible to produce the witnesses primarily needed by the Defence (one of them, the commander of the Brigade, had escaped from captivity and had not been recaptured, while the others could not be traced in the American and British zones), the decisive facts were not controversial, namely that the victims had been members of the American Forces, carrying out a military mission, that the accused had ordered their shooting without trial and that they had been so shot.

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Post by alcylon » 19 Dec 2007 10:37

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1938
- 1939
Commanding Officer 42nd Regiment
1939
Chief Operations 7th Army
1939
- 1941
Chief of Staff XXI Corps
1941
- 1942
General Officer Commanding 57th Division
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General Officer Commanding 163rd Division
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- 1943
In reserve
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- 1944
General Officer Commanding XXXXII Corps
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- 1945
General Officer Commanding LXXV Corps
1945
Executed in Italy


If any intrest youtube has a film

WWII Execution of German General Anton Dostler


http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=aaRWnTRiICY

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Post by Scharlemanje » 31 Jul 2008 13:55

Anton Dostler was charged with violations of the laws of war in that, as commander of the 75th German Army Corps, he, on or about 24th
March, 1944, in the vicinity of La Spezia, Italy, ordered to be shot summarily a group of United States Army personnel consisting of two officers and 13 enlisted men, who had then recently been captured by forces under General Dostler, which order was carried into execution on or about 26th March, 1944, resulting in the death of the said 15 members of the United States Army

The fifteen U.S. soldiers were dressed up as Italian civilians and therefore classified as illegal combattants. Illegal combattants by this time did not havy any rights to be treated under the clauses of the geneva convention. The execution of the said fifteen persons was therefore nothing to formally complain about. German soldiers dressed up as civilians were shot as well. It's a typical case of Siegerjustiz - or victor's justice

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Post by Simon K » 03 Aug 2008 09:17

What evidence do you have that they were dressed in civilian uniforms?

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