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Did Göring have any relatives?

Postby Luftman129 » 13 May 2004 17:30

Hello,

Did Göring have any relatives serving in the Wehrmacht as a tanker? The reason I'm asking this is in Otto Carius memoirs of the Russian front, he mentions an oberfeldwebel with the last name Göring numerous times.

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Postby USAF1986 » 13 May 2004 23:51

Reichsmarschall Göring had a relative who was a late-war Stug officer in the Luftwaffe division bearing his name: his nephew, Hauptmann Dr. jur. Heinz Göring. Although this is not the Göring described by Carius in his memoirs, I thought I’d include a summary of Heinz Göring’s career as a matter of interest.

Best regards,
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EDITED: Inaccuracies in promotions corrected.

Hauptmann Dr. jur. Heinz Göring

Born: 4 September 1907, Wiesbaden
Killed in action: 29 July 1944 near Pogorzel, east of Warsaw, Poland.

Notes:
• Son of Heinrich and Dora (née Barth) Göring, the brother of Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring; Heinz was thus the Reichsmarschall’s eldest nephew.
• Heinz Göring completed law studies on 20 July 1936 in Wiesbaden (Doctor of Law).
• Married Charlotte Seelhof in March 1942.

Promotions:
• Gefreiter der Reserve: 6 March 1937
• Unteroffizier der Reserve: 16 July 1938
• Wachtmeister der Reserve: 22 September 1938
• Leutnant (Kriegsoffizier): 1 August 1940 – RDA 1 August 1940
• Oberleutnant (Kriegsoffizier): 1 July 1942 – RDA 1 July 1942
• Hauptmann (Kriegsoffizier): 17 September 1944 – RDA 1 July 1944 (posthumous)

Commands & Assignments:
• End of 1936-1937: Called up for military service; served in the Luftwaffe as a gunner in 11./Flak Regiment 9 in Münster. Called up several times in the years thereafter for reserve training duty with the regiment.
• 14 March 1940-8 July 1940: Platoon Leader, 1./Reserve Flak Battalion 141.
• 9 July 1940-19 September 1940: Platoon Leader, I./Regiment “General Göring.”
• 20 September 1940-27 August 1941: Platoon Leader, IV./Regiment “General Göring.”
• 28 August 1941-28 February 1942: Platoon Leader, 17./Wachbatl. 1/Regiment “General Göring.”
• 1 March 1942-15 June 1942: Platoon Leader, IV./Regiment “General Göring.”
• 16 June 1942-30 September 1942: Platoon Leader, 2./Ersatz Battalion/“Hermann Göring” Brigade.
• 1 October 1942-26 October 1942: Platoon Leader, 4./Ersatz Battalion/“Hermann Göring” Brigade.
• 27 October 1942-3 December 1942: Platoon Leader, 8. (Panzer Pioneer)/Ersatz Regiment “Hermann Göring.”
• 4 December 1942-25 October 1943: Company Commander, 11./Ersatz and Training Regiment “Hermann Göring.”
• 26 October 1943-11 December 1943: Ordonnanz-Offizier (IIa), Panzer Regiment “Hermann Göring.”
• 12 December 1943-10 March 1944: Platoon Leader, 10./III. (Stug.)/Panzer Regiment “Hermann Göring.”
• 11 March 1944-29 July 1944: Company Commander, 10./III. (Stug.)/Panzer Regiment “Hermann Göring.” [On 29 July 1944, he was severely wounded near Pogorzel when he left his Jagdpanzer IV and a Russian shell exploded in the trees above him. He was put aboard another Jagdpanzer IV for transport to the rear; however, three Russian T-34s soon destroyed it. Survivors of the action indicated the wounded Göring fell into Russian hands and died.]

Decorations & Awards:
• Iron Cross, 1st Class (1939): 23 August 1941 (for service in Russia with IV. Battalion, Regiment “General Göring”).
• Iron Cross, 2nd Class (1939): 8 July 1941 (for service in Russia with IV. Battalion, Regiment “General Göring”).
• Luftwaffe Flak Combat Badge: 10 December 1941.
• Luftwaffe Ground Combat Badge: 2 November 1942.
• Wound Badge in Black: 28 January 1944 (temporarily blinded by a bomb explosion in Italy, December 1943).

SOURCE: Anderson, Paul. The Unknown Göring. Privately published in the United Kingdom, no date (16-page booklet detailing the life of Hauptmann Dr. jur. Heinz Göring, the eldest nephew of Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring).
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Postby Momchil Milanov » 04 Aug 2004 12:10

Thanks for the info USAF1986
Do you have a photo of Heinz Göring?

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Postby USAF1986 » 05 Aug 2004 00:14

Not a problem! These are from the source listed in my previous post.

The author of the previously cited booklet found the photo of Heinz Göring in Panzer uniform in a Berlin flea market. The back of the photo is inscribed: “In memory of my dear, dear Heinz. Fallen on 29.7.44 near Pogorzel, east of Warsaw. Taken during his last leave in Jan/Feb 44 in Oeyenhausen.” This photograph led the author on his quest to identify the soldier, which, much to his surprise, turned out to be the Reichsmarschall's nephew!

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Postby Phil Nix » 05 Aug 2004 10:47

In a book about Me 110 in 1940 there is mention of Hans-Joachim Göring Oberleutnant in 9 staffel ZG 76 shopt down an killed at the Verne Portland Great Britian by members of RAF 87 Squadron 11.7.40. There is no pic of him but there is a shot of the crash site. Book is "Zerstörer" by John J Vasco and Peter D Cornwell published by JAC publications Drayton Norfolk GB, there is no ISBN no
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Re: Did Göring have any relatives?

Postby Heimatschuss » 19 Aug 2010 21:21

Hello,

another nephew of Hermann Göring KIA was Peter Göring. Irving (1989, p.493, 498) mentions he was killed as a fighter pilot in France in autumn 1941.

I think this is his entry in http://www.volksbund.de

Nachname: Göring
Vorname: Peter
Dienstgrad: Leutnant
Geburtsdatum: 14.04.1922
Geburtsort: Weißenfels
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 13.10.1941
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Hubersent

Peter Göring ruht auf der Kriegsgräberstätte in Bourdon (Frankreich) .
Endgrablage: Block 32 Reihe 8 Grab 309

According to an entry in http://www.cieldegloire.com/jg_026a.php Lt. Peter Göring belonged to the HQ staff of Jagdgeschwader 26 and shot down a Blenheim bomber on the afternoon of Oct. 13th, 1941 at Samer-Hubersent.

He was the son Hermann Göring's brother Karl Ernst and Ilse Göring. Ilse was also the step-niece of Hermann, daughter of his step-sister Frieda.

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Postby Heimatschuss » 19 Aug 2010 21:41

Hello,

I hope the following genealogical information on Hermann Göring will be of general interest. Before starting to search I thought this was be an easy, well-researched subject and a look into a few Göring biographies would be sufficient. But as it seems it isn't.

In the German version of Wikipedia (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring) the information on Hermann Göring's family is incomplete, in the English version (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring) it's pitifully wrong. :(

The best information on the Göring clan I could find is in Müller et al. (2009, p.275):

Father:
Heinrich Ernst Göring (born in Emmerich Oct. 31st, 1838; died in Munich Dec. 12th, 1913)

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First marriage to Ida Friederike Remy (born in Rasselstein Sept. 26th, 1847; died in Devant les Ponts (near Metz) Apr. 23rd, 1879)
Marriage at Neuwied-Heddesdorf July 24th, 1869

Children:

Friedrich Wilhelm Göring (born in Rasselstein Oct. 29th, 1870; died in Wiesbaden Dec. 14th, 1959)
Major (Army)
More info at viewtopic.php?p=831170#p831170

Ernst Albert Göring (born in Metz Oct. 5th, 1873; died in Berlin Apr. 21st, 1909)
Lawyer

Frieda Göring (born in Metz July 16th, 1875; died in Kiel Oct. 9th, 1929)
Marriage with Lt.-Commander Otto Burchardt (born in Rostock Sept. 6th, 1865; died in Kiel Jan. 10th, 1904)
Children:
Ilse Burchard (born in Kiel Apr. 28th, 1898, died ????)

Heinrich Carl Göring (born Devant les Ponts (near Metz) Apr. 17th, 1879; died ??????)
Dr. med., doctor at and later director of the eye clinic in Wiesbaden
First marriage with Dora Barth (born in Berlin Feb. 15th, 1881)
Children:
Heinz Göring, see viewtopic.php?p=446691#p446691
Second marriage with Edith Zambona (born in Hildesheim Aug. 17th, 1898)

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Second marriage to Franziska 'Fanny' Tiefenbrunn (born in Munich Apr. 21st, 1859; died in Munich July 15th, 1923)
Marriage at London May 26th, 1884

Children:

Karl Ernst Göring (born in Rosenheim Aug. 3rd, 1885; died in Hanover Oct. 4th, 1932)
Major (Army) in East-Africa, then Lt.Col. (police)
More info at viewtopic.php?p=804634#p804634
Marriage with Ilse Burchard, daughter of Otto and Frieda Burchard (born in Kiel Apr. 28th, 1898, died ????)
(The story of Karl Ernst Göring emigrating to the US around 1900 and having a family there which you find at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_G%C3%B6ring and in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_G._G%C3%B6ring
is totally bogus.)
Children:
Peter Göring, see viewtopic.php?p=1498572#p1498572

Olga Therese Sophie (born in Walvis Bay (SW Africa) Jan. 16th, 1889; died in 1970)
Marriage with Dr.iur. Friedrich 'Fritz' Rigele, notary public in Saalfelden (Salzburg), later in Linz. (Born Aug. 12th, 1878 in Wolkersdorf; died after mountaineering accident near Berchtesgaden in Bad Reichenhall Oct. 10th, 1937)
Marriage on May 27th, 1912

Paula Elisabeth Rosa (born in Rosenheim May 8th, 1890; died in 1960)
Marriage with Dr.iur. Franz Hueber, notary public in Mattsee (Salzburg), later in Wels. Austrian Minister of Justice twice. For Mr. Hueber see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Hueber
Marriage on Sept. 6th, 1920

Hermann Wilhelm Göring (born in Rosenheim Jan. 12th, 1893; died in Nuremberg Oct 15th, 1946)

Albert Günter Göring (born in Berlin-Friedenau Mar. 9th, 1895; died in Munich Dec. 20th, 1966)
During WW I Lieutenant in the Bavarian Army signals corps, then engineer in Vienna.
First marriage with Maria von Ammon on March 16th, 1921 (subsequent divorce)
Second marriage with Ernestine Mathilde Emma Buchlmeyer (born in Munich Nov. 1st, 1886) on Oct. 2nd, 1923
Further info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_G%C3%B6ring

The list of grandchildren to Heinrich Göring is presumably incomplete. I've seen mention of two other sons of Karl Ernst and Ilse Göring: Heinz and Ernst. Where to place Hans-Joachim Göring (see viewtopic.php?p=505442#p505442) I don't know yet.

References:

Müller, Ilse; Schweizer, Günther; Werth, Peter
Die Familie Remy. Kannenbäcker und Unternehmer. Eine genealogische Bestandsaufnahme.
Legat-Verlag; Tübingen; 2009
http://tinyurl.com/27g5pey

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Torsten
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Re: Did Göring have any relatives?

Postby Dieter Zinke » 20 Aug 2010 08:11

Wow Torsten, I'm amazed !
Saubere Arbeit, Klasse !

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Re: Did Göring have any relatives?

Postby Heimatschuss » 21 Aug 2010 12:12

Hello Dieter,

many thanks for your kind response.

I think I may have found the source of the story that a brother of Hermann Göring emigrated to the US. Actually it was Hermann's cousin Karl Friedrich Wilhelm Göring. Here's a photo of him as a quarry worker in Cadiz, Ohio in either 1931 or 1935 .(The caption isn't totally clear about the date).
Karl Göring (Süddeutsche Zeitung pic no. 592653).jpg
Source: http://www.sz-photo.de/suddeutsche-zeitung-photo/hilfe/

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Postby Heimatschuss » 28 Aug 2010 09:29

Hello,

found another nephew of Hermann Göring: Klaus Rigele, son of Fritz Rigele and Olga Göring. He's only mentioned in passing by Lange (1950, p.92) who spells the name 'Claus', and by Knopf & Martens (1999, pp.58) who misname him as 'Klaus Göring'. German TV "historian" Guido Knopp also seems to have done some interviews with him (Knopp, 2006, p.120, 148).

References:

Knopf, Volker; Martens, Stefan
Görings Reich. Selbstinszenierung in Carinhall.
Ch. Links Verlag; Berlin; 1999

Knopp, Guido
Göring. Eine Karriere.
C. Bertelsmann Verlag; Gütersloh; 2006

Lange, Eitel
Der Reichsmarschall im Kriege. Ein Bericht in Wort und Bild.
Curt E. Schwab Verlag; Stuttgart; 1950


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Postby Captain_Stransky » 14 Sep 2010 11:51

USAF1986 wrote:Not a problem! These are from the source listed in my previous post.

The author of the previously cited booklet found the photo of Heinz Göring in Panzer uniform in a Berlin flea market. The back of the photo is inscribed: “In memory of my dear, dear Heinz. Fallen on 29.7.44 near Pogorzel, east of Warsaw. Taken during his last leave in Jan/Feb 44 in Oeyenhausen.” This photograph led the author on his quest to identify the soldier, which, much to his surprise, turned out to be the Reichsmarschall's nephew!

Best regards,
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Time to bring this thread back to life!

I was searching for info on Flak Regt 9 in which Heinz Göring served, when I discovered this post. This is very interesting for me as I am researching the history of the Flak Kaserne in Münster in which I/Flak Regt 9 was located and where Göring served. The Kaserne is today a British Army barracks still in use and over the years there have been several stories that Hermann Göring visited and that the barracks was later named after uncle Hermann. Initially I thought this was a tall story (there are many about the various barracks we had/have) but when I read that his nephew served there in 1936-37 I am now treating these stories with more credence. I speculate that this may be the linkage to the belief that Flak Kaserne was named as Göring Kaserne. Perhaps after the death of Heinz in 1944 the Wehrmacht named his old barracks as such in his honour, but I have yet to find any reference to the barracks being named as such.

Might there be any reference to the barracks in Münster-Gievenbeck in the Paul Anderson booklet? Could I maybe ask for a scan of any relevant pages from it? Pictures of the barracks would be a huge bonus. Any help you could give me would be gratefully recieved.

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Postby Heimatschuss » 22 Feb 2015 18:25

Hello,

Heimatschuss wrote:The list of grandchildren to Heinrich Göring is presumably incomplete. I've seen mention of two other sons of Karl Ernst and Ilse Göring: Heinz and Ernst. Where to place Hans-Joachim Göring (see viewtopic.php?p=505442#p505442) I don't know yet.


Hermann Göring's brother Karl Ernst Göring and his wife Ilse had three sons:

Peter (fighter pilot, KIA 1941) (viewtopic.php?p=1498572#p1498572)

Helmuth (fighter pilot, KIA 1944) (viewtopic.php?p=1924237#p1924237)

Heinz (pilot, POW in the Soviet Union, released in 1950, died 1981) (viewtopic.php?p=1714633#p1714633)


This 1944 newspaper article mentions a total of five nephews of Hermann Göring KIA till this date.

Goerings Nephews.JPG
Source: Znaimer Tagblatt of Sept. 2nd, 1944; 47. Jahrgang; Folge 207; p.2
http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno? ... =2&zoom=34

This should include Hans-Joachim Göring and Dr.jur. Heinz Göring. The fifth nephew is Walter Göring. He too became a fighter pilot and crashed fatally between Rouen and Le Havre while on a transfer flight, shortly after being posted to the HQ section of I. /Jagd-Geschwader 2. Walter was a son of Dr.med. Heinrich Göring from Wiesbaden (Knoll, 2007) and is buried in the grave next to that of Peter Göring.

Nachname: Göring
Vorname: Walter
Dienstgrad: Leutnant
Geburtsdatum: 18.01.1921
Geburtsort: Wiesbaden
Todes-/Vermisstendatum: 23.06.1942
Todes-/Vermisstenort: Triqueville / Pont-Audemer
Source: www.volksbund.de

Walter Goering.JPG
Source: Amsterdam Evening Recorder of June 27th, 1942; Vol. LXIII; No.263, p.1
http://tinyurl.com/m2hqkvx

Just google for 'Walter Goering 1942' and you'll find a good number of Allied papers from all around the globe that had this news on page 1.

References:

Knoll, Michael
Die Schule im Schloß. Geschichte der Schloß-Schule Kirchberg 1914-1964.
Schloß-Schule Kirchberg; Kirchberg; 2007

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Postby Heimatschuss » 28 Feb 2015 19:11

Hello,

I was lucky last week and found a genealogical web site shedding some light on Hermann's stepbrother Dr.med. Heinrich Göring and his family. He had not less than seven children with his first wife Dora Barth (http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1152448690).

Heinrich Carl Göring
* Devant les Ponts (near Metz) Apr. 17th, 1879
+ ??? (after August 1947)
http://magazin.spiegel.de/EpubDelivery/ ... f/41124156
http://leiden.courant.nu/issue/LD/1947- ... n/0/page/1 (notice in 'Met een enkel word - BUITENLAND')

oo (1.)
Theodora 'Dora' Anna Auguste Barth
* Berlin Feb. 15th, 1881
+ ???

Children:

Heinrich Heinz Theodor Göring
* Wiesbaden Sept. 4th, 1907
+ near Pogorzel (east of Warsaw, Poland) July 29th, 1944 (KIA)
assault gun officer (See viewtopic.php?p=446691#p446691 and http://ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20-%20G-K%20-%20Apr%202014.pdf, p.48)

Friedrich 'Fritz' Carl Göring [sometimes also Friedrich Karl Göring]
* Wiesbaden Sept. 27th, 1908
+ (1992 ?)
reconnaissance pilot, later staff positions (See http://ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20-%20G-K%20-%20Apr%202014.pdf, p.48)

Irving (1989, p.171) says Friedrich Karl failed the initial examination for officer candidates but is rather vague about the date, it appears to have been in the mid-1930s. Flik (1988, pp.89) mentions a similar case of a Göring nephew he'd judged inappropriate and the personal details he provides point to Karl Friedrich too. But Flik says this happened in 1942. It's difficult to get both cases under one hat unless we assume Fritz Göring changed from reserve officer to active officer in that year. Anyone who knows more about this case (or cases)?

In April/May 1945 Fritz served as administrator of Hermann Göring's estate in Berchtesgaden which he handed over to the US forces without any resistance (http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1945 ... ers-chalet).

Doris Ida Elfriede Göring
* Wiesbaden Mar 19th, 1910
+ ???
oo Alois Haase

Hans Joachim Göring
* Wiesbaden Aug. 19th. 1911
+ near Verne Citadel (Isle of Portland, UK) July 11th, 1940 (KIA)
fighter pilot (See viewtopic.php?p=505442#p505442 and http://ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20-%20G-K%20-%20Apr%202014.pdf, p.48)

Elisabeth 'Lissy' Charlotte Göring
* Wiesbaden Aug. 11th, 1913
+ 2008
oo Dr.agrar. Reinhard Traugott Strich
(http://www.linkfang.de/wiki/Ernst_Heinrich_G%C3%B6ring)

Albrecht 'Addi' Jürgen Göring
* Wiesbaden Jan. 16th, 1916 (falsely Nov. 10th, 1916, for correct date see findagrave and de Zheng & Stankey, 2014, p.48)
+ Apr. 30th, 1985
dive bomber pilot already in the Spanish Civil War, since 1940 staff positions. After WW II real estate salesman in Wiesbaden (Arnold, 2012, p.54). (See also http://ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20-%20G-K%20-%20Apr%202014.pdf, p.48)
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... d=30467782

Walter Otto Hermann Göring
* Wiesbaden Jan. 18th, 1921
+ Triqueville / Pont-Audemer (France) June 23rd, 1942 (KIA)
fighter pilot (See viewtopic.php?p=1930590#p1930590)

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oo (2.)
Edith Zambona
* Hildesheim Aug. 17th, 1898
+ ???

Ironically Heinrich's second marriage to Edith Zambona made Hermann Göring a relative of renowned pacifist writer Erich Maria Remarque, author of 'Im Westen nichts Neues' (aka 'All Quiet on the Western Front') (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Maria_Remarque). Remarque was married with Ilse Jutta Zambona, a younger sister of Edith. In 1935 Göring actually sent his Mr. Fix-it Paul 'Pilli' Körner to visit Remarque in Switzerland and offer him a return to Germany. Remarque declined though (Arnold, 2001, p.83). The marriage of Heinrich and Edith must have broken up sometime after that because by 1938 Edith already was the wife of one Mr. Schleuss in Davos (Switzerland) (Rörig, 2006, p.93).

References:

Arnold, Heinz Ludwig
Erich Maria Remarque.
Edition Text + Kritik; Munich; 2001

Arnold, Rolf H.
Eine Jugend im III. Reich und im Chaos der Nachkriegszeit.
epubli GmbH; Berlin; 2012

Flik, Gotthilf
Zur Geschichte der Wehrmachtpsychologie 1934 - 1943.
Bundesministerium der Verteidigung - P II 4 (Ed.); Bonn; 1988

Irving, David
Göring. A Biography.
Focal Point Publications; 1989
http://therebel.website/images/pdf/Goering_2010.pdf

Rörig, Anna Eunike
Ilse Jutta Zambona - eine biographische Skizze. Erich Maria Remarques zweimalige Ehefrau stammte aus Hildesheim.
in:
Erich-Maria-Remarque-Gesellschaft Osnabrück e.V. (Ed.)
Erich Maria Remarque Jahrbuch/Yearbook; V & R unipress; Göttingen, Osnabrück; Vol. XVI; 2006; pp.90-95

de Zheng IV, Henry; Stankey, Douglas G.
Luftwaffe Officer Career Summaries. Section G - K.
http://ww2.dk/Lw%20Offz%20-%20G-K%20-%20Apr%202014.pdf

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Re: Did Göring have any relatives?

Postby Heimatschuss » 12 Apr 2015 23:25

Hello,

let's continue a bit with Hermann's relatives, today the family of his step-sister Frieda:

Friederike Wilhelmine Frieda Clara Göring
* July 16th, 1875 in Metz (Lorraine)
+ Oct. 9th, 1929 in Kiel (Schleswig-Holstein)
oo
Korvettenkapitän a.D. Otto Friedrich Burchard
* Sept. 6th, 1865 in Rostock (Mecklenburg)
+ Jan. 10th, 1904 in Kiel (Schleswig-Holstein)

Otto Burchard served a good deal of his military career in the South Pacific. Unfortunately he contracted a tropical desease there that led to him being retired early in 1900 as well as to his death only four years later (N.N., 1905, p.56).

The couple had four daughters:

Ida Maria Burchard
* May 16th, 1897 in Kiel
+ ???
oo Dr.iur. Walter Molly
* July 15th, 1888 in Altenkirchen (Westerwald)
+ March 6th, 1956

Walter Molly was a german career diplomat who was (among numerous other offices) consul in Lodz (Poland) 1932 - 1934 and from 1937 until Jan. 1942 consul general in Sao Paulo (Brazil). For a detailed synopsis of his life see Keipert & Grupp (2000, pp.280).

The Molly couple had two children:

Gudula Molly
* Nov. 11th, 1920 in ???
+ ??? in ???

Klaus Molly
* Dec. 14th, 1924 in Constantinople (Turkey)
+ Jan. 08th, 1945 (http://www.volksbund.de/home.html) or Febr. 19th, 2012 (http://www.haz-trauer.de/traueranzeige/ ... y/14674839). Obviously there's somebody else in the grave of Klaus Molly in Lommel (Belgium), presumably a case still listed as MIA.

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Ilse Johanna Luise Katharina Ada Burchard
* Apr. 28th 1898 in Kiel
+ ??? in ???
oo (1.) Karl Ernst Göring
oo (2.) Rudolf Diels

She and her three sons have already been treated here viewtopic.php?f=77&t=162278 and here viewtopic.php?p=1930590#p1930590 to some extent.

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Elfriede Gertrud Clara Maria Burchard
* Aug. 3rd, 1900 in Kiel
+ 1975 in Caracas, Venezuela
oo 1935 (Otto?) Soulavy
* 1905 in Hungary
+ 1960 in Maracaibo, Venezuela

I've found very little about her but like her younger sister her trail leads to Venezuela. One genealogical site says she married one Otto Soulavy from Hungary in 1935. But in a 1930s list of presents for Hermann Göring they're listed amongst other donors as Karli and Elfriede Soulavy. When they were naturalized in Venezuela in 1955 (http://www.pgr.gob.ve/dmdocuments/1955/24871.pdf, p.4) their names were recorded as 'Karl E. Soulavy Horat' and 'Elfriede Burchard de Soulavy'. It seems her husband went at various times as Otto, Ottokar, Karl E., Karli or Carlos Soulavy. There was a Karl E. Soulavy who was a senior engineer and leading manager in the Manfred Weiss Steel & Metal Works, Hungary's most important armaments producer in WW II. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this is the same chap. Göring with his extended interest in war economics would have been only too pleased to install one of his relatives there in a key position.

The couple had three children but little has been published about them.

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Erika Gertrud Elisabeth Burchard
* Oct. 18th, 1901 in Kiel
+ 1958 in San Cristóbal, Táchira [State], Venezuela
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Walt(h)er Rode (Boué)
* Oct. 29th, 1890 in San Cristóbal, Táchira, Venezuela
+ 1980 in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic

In 1921 Erika married Walter Rode, the son of merchant Heinrich Rode from Hamburg who'd come to Venezuela as a clerk in 1880. After a decade of successful business deals Heinrich Rode became a partner in the trading house of Van Dissel, Rode & Co. in Maracaibo that specialized in coffee trade, also owning a number of coffee haciendas in the Andes region of Venezula (Rode, 1993).

Until shortly before WW II Walter and Erika Rode resided on the coffee hacienda 'La Granja' in Rubio (Tachira State) (Chardón, 1934, p.48) but then decided to return to Germany. They sold it in a complicated barter deal to the Jewish Bernheimer family that tried to emigrate from Germany. The Bernheimers were rich arts and antiques dealers in Munich and Hermann Göring took the opportunity to squeeze as much money out of them as possible for himself (and his family). Details of the deal can be found in Förster (1996, pp.243). For Göring the cherry on top was obviously that he could oblige the Bernheimers to take with them Jewish actor Martin Hartwig (i.e. Martin Hirsch) and his wife Gertrud Burchard (an aunt of the Burchard girls) and pay for their stay in South America (Förster, 1996, p.244; Trapp et al., 1999, p.380).

In 1940 the Rodes bought a large farm called Julianenhof near Buckow, about 50 kilometers east of Berlin. Emmy Göring seems to have visited them there several times with Edda. In April 1945 they fled the advancing Soviet forces.
(http://arbeitsstelle-provenienzforschun ... ulianenhof)

Later they settled in Venezuela again where Walter Rode still owned at least the coffee hacienda 'Monte Bello' in Santa Ana del Tachira (Cavaletto, 1961, p.13).

The Rode couple had three children too but they all seem to prefer their privacy.

References:

Cavaletto, Robert P.
Mis experiencias como delegado IFYE-1961 en Venezuela.
Consejo de Bienestar Rural; 1961

Chardón, Carlos Eugenio
Mycological Explorations of Venezuela.
University of Puerto Rico; Río Piedras; 1934

Förster, Christina Maria
Der Harnier-Kreis. Widerstand gegen den Nationalsozialismus in Bayern.
F. Schöningh Verlag; Paderborn; 1996

Gaceta Oficial de la Republica de Venezuela
of Oct 11th, 1955; Ano LXXXIV - Mes I; No. 24871; p.182,844
(http://www.pgr.gob.ve/dmdocuments/1955/24871.pdf, p.4)

Keipert, Maria; Grupp, Peter
Biographisches Handbuch des deutschen Auswärtigen Dienstes, 1871-1945.
Vol.3; F. Schöningh Verlag; Paderborn; 2000

N.N.
Otto Burchard. [Obituary]
Jahrbuch der Schiffbautechnischen Gesellschaft.
Vol.6; Springer-Verlag; Berlin; 1905

Rode, Heinrich
Los alemanes en el Táchira (siglos XIX y XX). Memorias de Heinrich Rode.
Biblioteca de Autores y Temas Tachirenses; Caracas; 1993

Trapp, Frithjof; Mittenzwei, Werner; Rischbieter, Henning; Schneider, Hansjörg (Eds.)
Handbuch des deutschsprachigen Exiltheaters 1933-1945. Vol.1&2
Verlag W. de Gruyter; Berlin; 1999

Genealogical web sites:

http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1152448685
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1152448689
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1152448692
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1152448693
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1152448694
http://www.geni.com/people/Elfriede-Bur ... 4654476614
http://www.geni.com/people/Otto-Soulavy ... 4654476622
http://gedbas.genealogy.net/person/show/1152448695
http://www.geni.com/people/Erika-Burcha ... 4654476386
http://www.geni.com/people/Walther-Rode ... 4654476378

Best regards
Torsten

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Re: Did Göring have any relatives?

Postby Heimatschuss » 22 Apr 2015 20:20

Hello,

the wedding of Elfriede Burchard and Karl Soulavy seems to have been on April 19th, 1936. There's a photo from the wedding party at Carinhall (http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/89714610/) in one of Hermann Göring's photo albums that's in the posession of the Library of Congress.

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Torsten


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