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Bruckenleger IV picture on ........

Post by Sander D » 29 May 2004 19:17

Came a cros these 2 picture on E-bay of a panzer IV with out his turred???
If you look closely at the front of the tank you can see that it's a Bruckenleger IV with out his brigde.

The 3 picture comes from panzertracs no 14

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Sander

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http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15504&item=3294837519

[url]http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15504&item=3294837516[/url]
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Post by bryson109 » 29 May 2004 19:20

Great pics, thanks for sharing your find on e-bay. :D

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Post by Marcus » 29 May 2004 21:19

brano,

Please remember to give proper credit to the sources of the images you post, thanks.

/Marcus

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Post by Fokker G1 » 29 May 2004 21:49

Photograph removed as per request of the owner

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 29 May 2004 22:05

Brano, where did you get your photos from?

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Post by brano » 30 May 2004 08:56

Moderators :

Original bibliography : Mostly unknown people from WWII.
Today-Spielberger,Jentz,Doyle...the best historians,but the best photo pirates.

(c) ??? 90%(jpeg) copy historian photos on the iNet is piracy !!! Including this forum.Existing forum without pirate copys-photos,informations,citations...?
Legalized this photos only citation iNet www adress ? Ehmmm...ehmm...sorry,it´s a naive-"copyLEFT".
"Or citated piracy www is legalization cessions ? " Ok...EDITING !

Sorry.....

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 30 May 2004 15:26

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, but if you're saying that you are doing the same as e.g Jentz and Spielberger, you are definately wrong. They pay good money and a long time ot hunt down these photos.

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Post by gewehrdork » 30 May 2004 17:22

Just my opinion but to me such pictures are for sharing . It's history that can be lost or hidden over money , and is quite appreciated when shared.

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Post by Fotosammler » 30 May 2004 18:26

Fokker G1 wrote:Very nice pic. from eBay

Brückenleger IV B possibly Magirus make, used in France 1940

Rgds


Its very nice but it is sometimes terrible to see his photos in the net from different users...

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Post by Marcus » 30 May 2004 18:55

gewehrdork wrote:Just my opinion but to me such pictures are for sharing . It's history that can be lost or hidden over money , and is quite appreciated when shared.


It's not a matter of not sharing photos, it is a matter of giving proper credit to the source of those photos.

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Post by tom! » 02 Jun 2004 14:08

Hi.

The problem is that only a few persons know the real sources.

Some of the pictures Spielberger, Jentz etc. used where hard to find. But the most of them are from the german "Bundesarchiv" and other public archives.

If a book is a source, I will tell it.

On the iNet most pictures are copied from books or other websites.
And I don´t know if the pic is from a book or from a private archive when I post it. I´ve build up a pic archive from the iNet for some years now. I do not know all the websites I´ve searched in.

I think, I´ve two alternatives:
1. I show the pics without source
2. I do not share my pics

If I have the source I tell it.

On the other hand my opinion about the iNet is, that any Info I give and find should be public domain.

Yours

tom :wink:

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 02 Jun 2004 16:46

Tom! wrote:On the other hand my opinion about the iNet is, that any Info I give and find should be public domain.

That is not a correct assesment, though. The copyright very much aplies to everything posted on the Internet, as it does in real life.

Tom! wrote:On the iNet most pictures are copied from books or other websites.

What about those that aren't, such as Christoph's World War II Day by Day or Robert Noss' now defunct (for the very reason we are discussing here) photosammler.de?
These persons haven't used any less money finding the photos compared to what it would cost to find them for books, and have only expenditures in sharing them.

Christian

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