Bergpanzer Tiger myth right?
Bergpanzer Tiger myth right?
There was no recovery version of the Tiger, rather the s.Pz.Abt. 508 modified one of their Tigers with a crane capable of placing explosive charges. The Tiger was abandoned and found by the Allies who assumed it was arecovery tank. Is this correct?
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What about the two pictures in the Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two (Chamberlain and Doyle) that are supposed to show a Bergepanzer Tiger Ausf E? The text says three converted in 1944, by removing main armament (but not turret), and adding a tubular crane.Christian Ankerstjerne wrote:There was a conversion, but no photographs exists. Three Tigers were converted by s.Pz.Abt. 509, and later turned over to s.Pz.Abt. 501 when the s.Pz.Abt. 509 refitted with Tiger IIs.
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There are also two pictures in Der Panzerkampfwagen Tiger und seine Abarten (Spielberger) on page 179 showing the turret with crane.
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Correct. Their purpose was, as you described, to place explosives.bryson109 wrote:But the modified Tiger of the 508 is not a Bergpanzer Tiger right? And did the three converstions have their turrets removed, as typical of Bergpanzers?
Those are the Tigers which were converted to place explosives.Johan Elisson wrote:What about the two pictures in the Encyclopedia of German Tanks of World War Two (Chamberlain and Doyle) that are supposed to show a Bergepanzer Tiger Ausf E? The text says three converted in 1944, by removing main armament (but not turret), and adding a tubular crane.
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Bergetiger?
Hello.
This Tiger is a unique transformation due to the workschops of
the sPz Abt 508 between the 1st and 5 March 1944.
The name of BergeTiger is due to bad interpretation of the Britisch Forces
who Find a calcined and destoyed Tiger.
There is Picure (Five) in the Steel Master n°23.
This pictures are now at the Tank Museun of Bovington.
On this Picture we can see the remainders of a crane who is to ligth to be useful has a breakdown service,and must be a explosive charge layer.
On an other picture we can see a "scble" who run along side the hull
to who seem be a box on the rear of the Tiger.
The only variant of Tiger I was the Sturmtiger.
Patrice
This Tiger is a unique transformation due to the workschops of
the sPz Abt 508 between the 1st and 5 March 1944.
The name of BergeTiger is due to bad interpretation of the Britisch Forces
who Find a calcined and destoyed Tiger.
There is Picure (Five) in the Steel Master n°23.
This pictures are now at the Tank Museun of Bovington.
On this Picture we can see the remainders of a crane who is to ligth to be useful has a breakdown service,and must be a explosive charge layer.
On an other picture we can see a "scble" who run along side the hull
to who seem be a box on the rear of the Tiger.
The only variant of Tiger I was the Sturmtiger.
Patrice
Bergetiger?
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Tiger recovery vehicles
What did they use to recover Tigers during combat? Other Tigers? Or wait to secure the area and use Famos? Would they have used Bergepanzer IV or Bergpanthers? Could they have moved a Tiger bogged down in mud?
Re: Tiger recovery vehicles
Early on 3 FAMOs were needed to recovery a Tiger. Other Tigers could be used (and were used - photo evidence supports it) but this practice was banned. When the Bergpanther entered service it was used to help recover Tigers.AikinutNY wrote:What did they use to recover Tigers during combat? Other Tigers? Or wait to secure the area and use Famos? Would they have used Bergepanzer IV or Bergpanthers? Could they have moved a Tiger bogged down in mud?
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