Who is this dead officier?

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Who is this dead officier?

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Post by _The_General_ » 20 Jun 2004 01:19

Das nehmen die amerikanischen Soldaten am Nachmittag des 19. April ein. Dabei stoßen sie auf die Leichen einiger Naziführer und auch auf die von Oberbürgermeister Freyberg und Stadtkämmerer Dr. Lisso, die ihrem Leben und dem ihrer Familien durch Gift ein Ende gesetzt hatten.


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Post by _The_General_ » 20 Jun 2004 01:24

* Bruno Erich Alfred Freyberg
SS-Gruppenführer /
Oberbürgermeister /
Ministerpräsident a.D. /
M.d.R. / Leutnant der Reserve a.D.

Born: 12. July 1892 in Harsleben bei Halberstedt / Mecklenburg.
Suicide: 18. April 1945 in his office, Leipzig / Sachsen, along with his wife and daughter (the same day U.S. troops arrived in Leipzig).


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Post by _The_General_ » 20 Jun 2004 01:28

No it is not Freyberg,

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Am i the only one in this thread ;) ?

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Post by Helly Angel » 20 Jun 2004 05:14

Oh no! I think is a very interesting thread! All my life I was asking me Who was the SS Man dead in the first photo and I saw the second photo but I can´t remember where.

Thanks for sharing!

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Post by David Thompson » 20 Jun 2004 06:35

The photographs were taken by Margaret Bourke-White, and published in Life magazine and elsewhere. I have never seen any identity given for the officer (which dates from Feb 1945) or the Leipzig attorney and his family. Here is the dead officer in another photo from the same series, and scanned from Stefan Lorant's Sieg Heil: An Illustrated History of Germany from Bismarck to Hitler, W.W. Norton & Co., New York: 1974, p. 336:
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Post by Helly Angel » 20 Jun 2004 07:12

Good photo David!!!

Hard question but... the little photo in the left down part of this photo... the photo in the frame in the floor... Who could be?

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Post by Max Williams » 20 Jun 2004 10:23

The Leipzig attorney has been identified as SS-Gruf. Alfred Freyberg, the Mayor of Leipzig with his family. Whether or not it is him, I don't know. It is a rather sad photo.
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Post by Topspeed » 20 Jun 2004 10:52

Yeah really sad set up.

Guy was possibly shopping groceries and shot by a sniper..then dragged to an office and AH pic put deside him..not after the guy was rolled over in dirt and stepped over 100 times. Worst case is the dude isn't even in his own clothes..highly unlikely thou.

Well war is a cruel business and shit happens.

Then again he may have been laying face down after a suicide and just rolled over..in a pic could be his dead relative..why the AH pic on the right is demolished and by whom. Frames must have been worth alot since them are now in a new home...wonder where ?

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Post by _The_General_ » 20 Jun 2004 11:04

Can someone read the cufftile of the dead officier. I'm I correct when I say that he is an ss-Sturmbann- führer?

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Post by Juha Hujanen » 20 Jun 2004 11:50

The cufftitle is Deutscher Volkssturm Wehrmacht.

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Post by _The_General_ » 20 Jun 2004 12:43

Then he is an Volkssturm-Bataillonsführer.

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Post by Samuel Mitcham » 21 Jun 2004 05:07

I saw the first photo (dead man at desk) many years ago at the U.S. National Archives. If memory serves, the man at the desk was the mayor of Leipzig. The woman was his wife.

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Post by Topspeed » 21 Jun 2004 10:26

Hujanen,

Can you also read what is written on his ID :)

Well what is his rank ? I mean Bataillonsführer is a position.

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Post by Juha Hujanen » 21 Jun 2004 16:43

Topspeed wrote:Hujanen,

Can you also read what is written on his ID :)

Well what is his rank ? I mean Bataillonsführer is a position.

JT


There's another pic of dead Volkssturm-Führer taken from different angle in Maailma Palaa vol III.His cufftitle is more visible in that pic.His rank appears to be Sturmbannführer.

/Juha

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