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Incidents involving Canadian and German units in Normandy...

Post by Gwynn Compton » 10 Aug 2002 10:35

I remember hearing a while ago about the SS Hitler Jugand Division, and the Canadians at Normandy killing each others prisoners, does anyone have any information on this?

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 10 Aug 2002 10:46

Go to http://www.valorandhorror.com for a start. I will find you more to read as this is a topic of interest to myself as well. Cheers.

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 10 Aug 2002 10:48

Sorry, http://www.valourandhorror.com
getting well into my cups...please forgive me

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 10 Aug 2002 10:50

Go to the " In desperate battle" section.
Then goe to issues and you'll find stuff there. I recommend going throught the whole site. not that big and very interesting. Then again, I'm Canadian. :D

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 10 Aug 2002 11:10

Sorry Gwynn, the site is being overhauled as far as i can tell. You can still get the fundamental details of atrocites by both sides, but for more detailed stuff, you have to dig. I think it's still all ther...just not so esy to find.

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Post by Caldric » 10 Aug 2002 11:16

Looks like they were scratching the barrel a little with this gang. Maybe just office people?

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 10 Aug 2002 11:21

Yep, those boys aint HJ, but after Omaha, the Canadian beach was the next heaviest defended. Plus they got further inland than any of the allies.
Sorry :oops: Just that old national pride coming through.

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Org Todt...

Post by Scott Smith » 10 Aug 2002 11:38

Caldric wrote:Looks like they were scratching the barrel a little with this gang. Maybe just office people?

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They look like Organisation Todt people, probably fortifications engineers. The one has a wound badge in silver.
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Post by Caldric » 10 Aug 2002 11:50

I thought that was a wound badge.

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Post by Benoit Douville » 11 Aug 2002 01:14

Hi all,

Interesting topic. We know and we have sources regarding the atrocities commited by the Hitler Jujend in Normandy but is somebody can provides sources regarding the atrocities commited by the Canadians? I will be very interested. I didn't find it on the link that you provide Lawrence.

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Post by Gwynn Compton » 11 Aug 2002 03:17

Indeed, and thats what I'm trying to uncover. I'm trying to find just what happened between these two foes, and whether the Canadians are also guilty of the same crimes as their opponents.

I'm already aware of several incidents when New Zealanders killed German prisoners before a retreat, to prevent them being liberated, and I knew one of the soldiers involved before he passed away. But I've only heard the occastional bits of information about incidents in Normandy, and I've had some difficulty in finding information on them.

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 11 Aug 2002 03:46

There used to be stuff on there about canadian atrocities. And last night I read a section on the Canadian take no prisoners order. I will go over it and send you specific links, read the story on Jaques Dextraze, he has an account of the drowning of german POWS.

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 11 Aug 2002 04:00

For something right away, go to Marcus' Military history forum. Go to the ww2 section. The topic is " We now know about soviet atrocities what about allied. Go to page 2. I post there as "Landser". I give 3 incidents af Canadian warcrimes, and my source was "A meeting of Generals" by Tony Foster.

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Post by Lawrence Tandy » 11 Aug 2002 04:09

By the way, I recommend the book. It is all about the warcrimes commited by 12thss and Canadians and covers the battle and the trial of Kurt Meyer.

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Post by J.Steiner » 20 Nov 2005 22:12

I am unable to find the mentioned forum, can you post a link, or does it no longer exist?

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