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SS and SD in Liepaja(Latvia)

Post by Mikedc » 13 Sep 2004 11:17

Dear folks,

Hope somebody can help me with the following. On the internet I came across a document that dealed with SS- and SD-officers that served in the town Liepaja in Latvia. They're responsable for murdering all the jews overthere and of course also for killing other people.

But when looking for more info on the internet or on this forum for these men I came home with empty hands. And I don't have books about this subject so I also can't look it up. But maybe some off you might have some more info. What I'm looking about these men is the same as usual: DoB, short career-info, rank, SS- and party-number and DoD.

Dr. Fritz(Emil)Dietrich: Policechief in Liepaja.
SS-Hauptsturmführer Hildmann: SD-chief in Liepaja 1944-1945.
SS-Obersturmführer Kurt Jurgschait: SD-chief in Liepaja April 1943-1944.
SS-Untersturmführer Wolfgang Kügler: SD-chief Liepaja from July 14th 1941 till April 1943.
SS-Hauptsturmführer Seiffert: Liepaja SD.
SS-Hauptsturmführer Zingler: SD-chief in Liepaja in 1945.
SS-Oberscharführer Sobeck: Liepaja SD.
SS-Scharführer Karl-Emil Strott: Deputy from Wolfgang Kügler, served in Liepaja from July 1941 till January 1945.
Erhard Grauel: Commander teilkommando 2 within EK 1a(under the command of Reichert). Served at Liepaja.
Fritz Reichert: Commander of EK 1a and served with this unit in Liepaja.

Thanks,
Mikedc

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Post by Max Williams » 13 Sep 2004 13:03

I have several photos from Liepaja. This one shows: right to left,
Murnieks (head of district), Blaus (mayor), Dietrich, General Dankers, Colonel Jakobsons. Liepaja/Libau 1st June 1942.
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Post by Mikedc » 13 Sep 2004 13:21

Hello Max,

Photos are nice as well, but I'm hoping for more info about the persons I've written down. Still, if you want you may send me photos also, you can put them in this topic or you can send them through my p.m.

Do you have separate photos from the men I'm talking about???

Take care,
Mike

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Post by dylan » 13 Sep 2004 21:05

Hi

Grauel Erhard 8/6/1910 SS sturmbannf.
Einsatzkommando 2 july 1941 - oktober 1941
other assignment sd wurzburg ; gestapo breslau.

see his trial justiz und ns verbrechen.

the field men.

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Post by Mikedc » 13 Sep 2004 22:44

Hello Dylan,

Thanks for the additional info on Grauel. Do you also know where he was born??? And do you know if he was a party-member(if so, hope you also have his party-number)????

And I know about the book, but I don't think I'm able to buy all the books that I still wanna buy. In one year time I already bought quite a number off books regarding the SS. I have some books about the SS in general, some about Waffen-SS units, two that are dealing with the camps and I have some issues from Der Freiwillige. And I write down every book that I think is interesting to me. But I'm not able to buy the real expensive books(or I have to win the lottory one day). I'm looking for second hand ones or cheap new ones.

So thanks again for all info you can give me.
Greetings,
Mike

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Post by David Thompson » 14 Sep 2004 00:27

Baumgartner, Hans – service, German Security Police (Sicherheitspolizei – Sipo) at Libau {arrested and charged by an East German court at Berlin with war crimes, specifically involvement in mass executions of Jewish civilians and Russian POWs in Jul 1941, in the period Aug-Oct 1941, on 14-16 Dec 1941 at Libau, and from Feb 1942 to Sept 1943, at Libau, Hasenpoth, and Schkede; convicted and sentenced to death 18 Mar 1971; subsequent fate unknown (JuNSV Verfahren Lfd.Nr.1046; LG/BG Berlin 710318; Ob. Gericht der DDR 710507).}

Dietrich, Dr. Fritz (6.8.1898-22.10.1948) [SS-Obersturmbannfűhrer] – SS and Police garrison commander (SS- und Polizeistandortfűhrer) at Libau Sept 1941-Nov 1943; Police President of Saarbruecken {arrested and put on trial by an American military tribunal for war crimes; convicted and sentenced to death by hanging; executed at Landsberg-am-Lech prison 22 Oct 1948 (LT 23 Oct 1948:4e; Good Old Days p. 290; Third Reich Historical Forum, "Landsberg Executions," http://www.thirdreichforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23517).}

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Post by Mikedc » 14 Sep 2004 00:50

Hello David,

Thank you very much for this info. I had already something on Dietrich but not all of it so the additional info is welcome. Still I'm looking for his SS-number and some more info if possible.

But this Hans Baumgartner-person is new to me, I only have a Ludwig Baumgartner in my files. Do you also have a rank from this Hans Baumgartner and maybe his SS-number and DoB???

Greetings,
Mike

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Post by David Thompson » 14 Sep 2004 03:32

Mikedc -- I apologize but no on Baumgartner. All I have on the fellow is his JuNSV case summary. As for Dietrich, I'm wondering if he is the co-defendant mentioned in the Stemmler lynching case [Case No.12-1545 & 12-2272 (US v. Fritz Dietrich et al); Trial concluded 15 Jul 1947] at:

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Post by Phil Nix » 14 Sep 2004 09:58

From Oct 1944 DAL Born 6.8.1898 Party nr 2674343 SS Nr 280034
RANKS Usf 20.4.37, Osf 20.4.38, Hsf 11.9.38, Sbf 20.4.39 Obsbf 1.9.41
Always shown on the roll of SD/?RHSA. No Police rank
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Post by Max Williams » 14 Sep 2004 10:12

The grave of Dr. Dietrich.
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Post by Mikedc » 14 Sep 2004 14:04

Hello David,

Thanks for letting me know and you're right, he could be indeed the co-defendant in this case. And probably again a new name for my files because I never heard of this Stemmler-guy before so I presume I don't have anything on him yet.


Hello Philmil,

Thanks for the extra information, I presume this is info about Baumgartner???? I don't see any name but because I asked David for more info about this person I guess you're also talking about him.


Greetings to both of you,
Mike

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Post by dylan » 14 Sep 2004 21:38

Hi

Kugler Wolfgang 3/12/1909 SS untersturmf. SSnr 290270
Nsdap 352559 , service einsatzkommando 1941-1943.
sd Liegnitz ; gestapo Breslau.

Reichert Fritz 4/12/1912 SS sturmbannf. ssnr 342012
NSDAP 717286 Einsatzkommando A.

Grauel :SS nr 80793 , NSDAP 1682886.

Dylan

the field men.

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Post by Mikedc » 14 Sep 2004 23:40

Hey Dylan,

Thanks for the info. On both men I already had something but with this I can make their files a bit better. And the info on Grauel is also much appreciated, everytime I learn a little bit more.

Still, I already noticed that the hunger can't be stopped that easily. If you're working on it and you find alot of info you still want more. And reading books is also good, it only costs alot of money if you want them all regarding this subject(SS in all it's forms)and I don't have that.

Greetings,
Mike

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Post by steve248 » 15 Sep 2004 09:21

Erhard Grauel
8 June 1910, born Langensalza
schooling: Volksschule, Realgymnasium, University (did not complete)
28 March-15 June 1933, SA
1 April 1933, NS - No. 1682886
15 June 1933, SS - No. 80793
1933-1935, NS Zellenleiter
15 Dec 1934, SS-Rotf
1935, joined SD
9 Nov 1935, SS-Uschaf
11 July 1936, SS-Schaf
30 Jan 1937, SS-Oschaf
8 Nov 1937, joined SD - SD-Unterabschnittt Mainfranken, Würzburg
11 Sept 1938, commissioned SS-Ustuf
20 Apr 1940, SS-Ostuf; now REferent, SD-Abschnitt Würzburg/Leiter III
July 1940, Einsatzkommando Mühlhausen (Alsace), SD chief
May-Oct 1941, assigned to Einsatzgruppe A/EK 2, TKführer in
Libau (Liepaja) and Windau
Feb-July 1942, Unternehmen Zeppelin operations (Russia)
20 April 1942, SS-Hstuf
1 Sept 1943, posted to IdS Breslau as Persönlicher Referent
28 July 1944, appointed acting Stapoleiter Troppau
9 Nov 1944, SS-Stubaf and Regierungsrat
early postwar, in Soviet captivity, escaped and fled to west where
lived in Saarbrücken under an assumed name
1953, resumed his own name
June 1967, arrested by West German police on war crimes charges
July 1971, Schwurgericht Hannover convicted Grauel of complicity in two cases of murder in Libau and Windau involving the death of 280 persons; 6 years imprisonment sentence was cancelled on appeal in Aug 1974
1972, living in Völklingen (near Saarbrücken)

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Post by Mikedc » 15 Sep 2004 10:12

Hello Steve248,

This is looking great, thank you very much. With this my file on Grauel should be complete because I also don't want to make my files that big, that's a job for the real researchers. I just keep it simple but of course with as much info as possible. So this is just great...... :)

Greetings,
Mike

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