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Aktion Reinhard(t)

Post by Al Carter » 13 Oct 2004 19:19

Who was the Aktion Reinhard(t) camps named after? I used the forums search feature, but was unable to find the information I am looking for. I do recall seeing a thread/post about this in the past.

Searching the web most sites claim that they were named after Reinhard Heydrich. However, I remember reading someones post who made an argument they were named for a doctor or someone in the Reich government.

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Post by Doggowitz » 13 Oct 2004 19:47

It was actually called after Reinhardt Heydrich, who was assasinated 1942 by London-send Czech Agents.

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Post by Erik » 13 Oct 2004 20:34

Try reading some postings on the following thread!:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... t=reinhard

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Post by Al Carter » 14 Oct 2004 18:30

Woot! Just what I was looking for.


Thanks guys,


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Post by Helly Angel » 14 Oct 2004 20:19

No, "Aktion Reinhardt" was nothing to do or any relation with Reinhard Heydrich.

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Post by xcalibur » 14 Oct 2004 20:23

Helly Angel wrote:No, "Aktion Reinhardt" was nothing to do or any relation with Reinhard Heydrich.

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Care to elaborate?

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Post by Helly Angel » 14 Oct 2004 20:32

No xcalibur, is hard to me explain this because the english is hard to me, remember the spanish is my natal lenguage, I´m going to use a quote from Mr. Michael Mills to explain this:
Aktion Reinhardt" was the code-name for the process of collecting the personal property of persons sent to concentration camps and other camps, both of those exterminated and those kept for labour, and processing it for various uses.

It received its name from Fritz Reinhardt, State Secretary of the Department of Finance, who was in overall charge of the operation.

"Aktion Reinhardt" was in operation at all concentration camps and other camps where persoanl property was confiscated from inmates. Hoeß testified that "Aktion Reinhardt" was in operation at Auschwitz; the storing of confiscated property at the part of Birkenau nicknamed "Kanada" was part of "Aktion Reinhardt"...

... Fritz Reinhardt was a great enemy of Globocnik and suspected him of corruptly diverting the proceeds of "Aktion Reinhardt" in the G-G for his own purposes, rather than sending it back to the Ministry of Finance. Eventually he succeeded in having Globocnik removed from his post and exiled to the Balkans to risk his life in anti-partisan warfare. Thereafter "Aktion Reinhardt" in the G-G was controlled by the WVHA, through the staff of the Lublin Concentration Camp.
I know about this NOT from Mr. Mills, I did read some statement in a book called "The Holocaust in documents" about this theme and Heydrich was Reinhard without "t".



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Post by xcalibur » 14 Oct 2004 20:37

Thanks for the book reference.

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Post by Earldor » 14 Oct 2004 21:05

Helly Angel wrote: No xcalibur, is hard to me explain this because the english is hard to me, remember the spanish is my natal lenguage, I´m going to use a quote from Mr. Michael Mills to explain this:
You really should know better. And you should read the whole thread provided by Erik.
I know about this NOT from Mr. Mills, I did read some statement in a book called "The Holocaust in documents" about this theme and Heydrich was Reinhard without "t".


And also this will be more clear to you if you care to actually read what was written in the abovementioned thread.

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Post by Helly Angel » 15 Oct 2004 01:03

Earldor,

Yo leo lo que a mi me da la gana y usted no me da lineamientos sobre lo que tengo que hacer. Tan sencillo como eso.

Por cierto que usted no tiene más conocimiento que yo y a ver si aprenden a RESPETAR a los que no hablamos inglés porque tenemos que hacer un esfuerzo TREMENDO para poder comunicarnos aqui para que venga un pendejo a criticar lo que hacemos.

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Post by Helly Angel » 15 Oct 2004 01:04

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Aktion Reinhardt no tiene que ver nada con Reinhard Heydrich que se llamaba Reinhard SIN t.

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Post by Earldor » 15 Oct 2004 01:38

Helly Angel wrote:Earldor,

Yo leo lo que a mi me da la gana y usted no me da lineamientos sobre lo que tengo que hacer. Tan sencillo como eso.

Por cierto que usted no tiene más conocimiento que yo y a ver si aprenden a RESPETAR a los que no hablamos inglés porque tenemos que hacer un esfuerzo TREMENDO para poder comunicarnos aqui para que venga un pendejo a criticar lo que hacemos.

Helly
Now, I meant no disrespect by pointing out that the link to the thread given by Erik would have explained why Operation Reinhard(t) was not named after Fritz Reinhardt.

English isn't my first language either, so I find your outrage slightly amusing. As for your knowledge in the matter, again, I refer you to the thread on the matter.

P.S. I don't appreciate being called an asshole when my intention was to help you.

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Post by Earldor » 15 Oct 2004 01:40

Helly Angel wrote:PostData:

Aktion Reinhardt no tiene que ver nada con Reinhard Heydrich que se llamaba Reinhard SIN t.
Ei pidä paikkaansa. (=Not true). Asia selviäisi, jos viitsisit lukea sinulle säikeen, johon Erik viittasi. (=You would find this out, if you bothered to read the thread I referred to).

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Post by michael mills » 15 Oct 2004 05:22

The correct spelling is certainly "Aktion Reinhardt". I think all historians now agree to that.

Other variants such as "Reinhard" and "Reinhart" which do appear in the sparse documentation are generally considered to be misspellings.

But the claim that Reinhard Heydrich sometimes spelled his first name "Reinhardt" is without foundation.

Heydrich, born on 7 March 1904, was given the names "Reinhard Tristan Eugen" by his parents.

The name "Tristan" came from the hero of Wagner's opera "Tristan und Isolde"; his father, Bruno Heydrich, had been a professional opera singer, and was a devotee of Wagner.

The name "Eugen" came from Prince Eugen, a famous Habsburge general of the late 17th century.

But the first name, "Reinhard", was chosen because it was the name Bruno Heydrich had given to the hero of the opera "Amen" composed by him. That name was definitely "Reinhard", not "Reinhardt", as can be easily checked by looking at the scores of the opera "Amen", which still exist.

All the above information can be found in the Heydrich biography by Günter Deschner.

"Aktion Reinhardt" was accordingly not named after Reinhard Heydrich.

There is in fact no documentary evidence for the origin of the name, but it is most likely that it was named after Fritz Reinhardt, the State Secretary of the Ministry of Finance, who had the ultimate authority over the whole operation of sequestrating and recycling the property of the deported Jews (and perhaps also of all concentration-camp inmates)

Reinhardt was a bitter enemy of Globocnik, regarding the latter as a corrupt thief. So it must have been galling for Globocnik to have been put in charge of administering within the boundaries of the Generalgouvernement a program named after his enemy, the man who had been most responsible for having him dismissed in disgrace from his post of Gauleiter of Vienna due to corruption. That may have been yet another case of the common practice within National Socialist Germany of making two bitter rivals work together on the same project; something to do with its neo-darwinist ideology perhaps.

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Post by Earldor » 15 Oct 2004 07:20

michael mills wrote: The correct spelling is certainly "Aktion Reinhardt". I think all historians now agree to that.
Yes they do, but they still use the spelling Reinhard because that is the better known term.
Other variants such as "Reinhard" and "Reinhart" which do appear in the sparse documentation are generally considered to be misspellings.
Which is important in determining the reasons for the inconsistencies in spelling.
But the claim that Reinhard Heydrich sometimes spelled his first name "Reinhardt" is without foundation.
Which is neither here, nor there in this question. His name was spelled in several documents and official papers as Reinhardt.
"Aktion Reinhardt" was accordingly not named after Reinhard Heydrich.
Your evidence to the contrary is tenuous at best.
If the reader doesn't want to read the previous thread about the issue, may I recommend reading:
http://www.deathcamps.org/reinhard/acti ... nhard.html

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