Need help to Id Photo's of 2 solders

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 14 Oct 2004 15:08

Hello all,I am new here.

I wanted to see if anyone could help me Identify this photo of a German Solder.I got it from a website about a year ago and I wanted more information about the solder or the photo.

I am pretty sure that he is SS,But I do not know which division.Which is why I posted it here.Also,The Research area's sub-area's did not fit the question.So if this is not the right area,Please move it to the correct area.

So can anyone tell me information about this photo? Or the solder? Or the website it came from? Anything at all would be great.

Thanks.

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 14 Oct 2004 15:11

This photo also came from another website and I wanted to know more information about it.

It is an SS solder,I can tell from the symbol.And It also looks like it might of been used for some type of propaganda poster or something like that because of the coloring and way it was taken.

So any information on the photo it'self or the particular solder would be great.

Juha Hujanen · Post by **Juha Hujanen** » 14 Oct 2004 15:56

The first pic is also in cover of Michael Reynold's book Men of Steel

Cheers/Juha

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 14 Oct 2004 16:04

Thanks,Can you give me more info about him?

Is he still alive?

I have been googling it but I can't seem to find it.

Any other photos?

Eh,I noticed that you changed the "max hansen" I guess he's not Max Hansen? Do you know his name?

Juha Hujanen · Post by **Juha Hujanen** » 14 Oct 2004 16:20

I have no idea of his name.Max Hansen's pic is in spine jacket of Reynold's book,some how i managed to mix them

He has camouflage face mask.I belive it was issued in April 42,so it might help to time picture.

Cheers/Juha

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 14 Oct 2004 17:21

How about the second photo?

CHRISCHA · Post by **CHRISCHA** » 14 Oct 2004 19:01

The second photo is of a Bad Tölz collar insignia.

The Bad Tölz collar patch (this is the first pattern shown), was worn by candidates and personnel of the Bad Tölz SS officer training establishment in Bavaria.

The patch was worn in aluminium thread for officers and enlisted men, but according to Angolia's 'Cloth Insignia of the SS', it was also produced for enlisted men in silver grey thread.

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 14 Oct 2004 19:36

I was getting the feeling that he was just a modell or something.Not really in the SS at all.

Does anyone have any more information about him?

ninoo · Post by **ninoo** » 18 Oct 2004 01:14

Hi,

I saw the second picture in one books of Time-Life WW II series (The Nazis). It's caption said that the picture is a Nazi propaganda to show an ideal model of the pure Nazi's Aryans.

Best Regards

Bless the people who like to help the others.

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 03 Nov 2004 00:43

Bump

Does anyone have any more information about the 2 photo's?

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 18 Dec 2004 03:16

I just wanted to bump this up again.

Someone must know the name of the solder's,Either one of them.Or atleast some more information about them or maybe more photo's of them.

okw · Post by **okw** » 18 Dec 2004 04:21

I was getting the feeling that he was just a model or something.Not really in the SS at all.

Hey, truffelschwein

you may be right. Is this him here again?

his hair is KICK ASS!!!

Truffelschwein · Post by **Truffelschwein** » 18 Dec 2004 06:02

No...It's not the same guy.

I really don't know if he was a model or not.Just trying to figure it out.

Rob - wssob2 · Post by **Rob - wssob2** » 18 Dec 2004 15:06

Truffelschwein:

Both pictures are SS propaganda photos (photo of the pink-skinned blond guy in the SS dress uniform has been cited as an example of a "perfect" Aryan specimen.) . Thus, if you want to find out who the soldiers were, you need to start researching the photos origins as SS propaganda.

The photos have been reproduced in various books. Look up the photo credits in the book - it's likely that the photo collection (e.g. Berlin Document Center) will be cited. You also may be able to find the orginal publication data and source (e.g. May 1941 issue of "Das Schwartz Korps")

However, if the soldiers names are not listed in the original document, (and there is a very good chance they are not) then the identity of the two men will be extremely difficult to determine.

The men most likely were killed during the war, or have since died.What does it matter anyway? Why do these 2 propaganda photos interest you so much?

MD650 · Post by **MD650** » 18 Dec 2004 17:52

I think the first photo is Max Hansen.