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SS-Gruf Fitzhum

Post by Durer » 21 Nov 2004 17:13

Hi,

Has someone a pic of SS-Gruf Fitzhum in the uniform of SS-Gruf and as HSSPF Albanien ?

Here one pic of him, identified as him (to be confirm) in the uniform of SS-Brif :

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 21 Nov 2004 17:36

I have my doubts. This is not Fitzthum !!
Fitzthum was promoted to SS-Brigadeführer and Generalmajor der Waffen-SS on 30.10.1943, and three days later (03.11.1943) he became Beauftragter des RFSS beim Bevollmächtigten des Deutschen Reiches in Albanien.

BUT :
we see in the center Generalfeldmarschall Model, and Model was never in Albania.
I see no resemblance to Fitzthum.

But who are the two to identify?

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Post by Durer » 21 Nov 2004 17:48

In my opinion, we have :
- on the left : Oswald Pohl, SS-Ogruf (to be confirmed)
- then, Generalfelmarschall Model,
- then, an SS-Brigadeführer (not Fitzhum according to Oberstab ; BUT who is this man ?),
- then Himmler.

My question is related to the SS-Brigadef. to be identified. Who ?

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Post by Michael Miller » 21 Nov 2004 17:50

It looks like Dr.-Ing. Hans Kammler to me.

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Post by Michael Miller » 21 Nov 2004 17:52

And yes, without doubt that is Pohl at far left.

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Post by Georges JEROME » 21 Nov 2004 23:51

I agree with Mike it's definitivelly Hans Kammler

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Post by Andreas Schulz » 21 Nov 2004 23:54

Yes, the SS-Brigadeführer is Hans Kammler.

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Post by steve248 » 23 Nov 2004 14:01

I would be interested if anyone can hazard a guess at the location
where the photo was taken and potential date.

With Pohl and Kammler both from WVHA, unlikely to be a KZ with Model as a visitor - but what about a Truppenübungsplatz?

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Post by Juha Hujanen » 23 Nov 2004 14:26

According to Mollo's Uniforms Of The SS Collected Edition the pic is taken 12.1.44 during the inspection of Handschar Division.

However he identifields Brigaf. as Fizhum :?

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Post by Andreas Schulz » 23 Nov 2004 17:14

Here is another pic of Kammler.

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Re: photo

Post by Dieter Zinke » 23 Nov 2004 18:07

steve248 wrote:I would be interested if anyone can hazard a guess at the location
where the photo was taken and potential date.

With Pohl and Kammler both from WVHA, unlikely to be a KZ with Model as a visitor - but what about a Truppenübungsplatz?


Another suggestion:
Model was z.b.V. im Führerhauptquartier 09.01.1944 - 31.01.1944

This would explain a lot!

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Post by Phil Nix » 24 Nov 2004 11:23

Juha Hujanen wrote:According to Mollo's Uniforms Of The SS Collected Edition the pic is taken 12.1.44 during the inspection of Handschar Division.

However he identifields Brigaf. as Fizhum :?

Cheers/Juha

I do not think it is Fitzthum but it is Kammler. Here is a pic of Fitzthum
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Post by SS-Researcher » 24 Nov 2004 12:35

Great photo Phil! Thanks for sharing! :)

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Post by Georges JEROME » 25 Nov 2004 21:07

Great pic, Fitzthum was then Polizeivizeprasident Wien and as SS Oberführer attached to SD Hauptamt (like most of the Polizeiverwalter unpaid member of the SS : ehrenmitarbeiter der SD des RFSS).

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