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Post by hec801 » 01 Dec 2004 23:35

Hey,

can anybody id this Officer!? Found on eBay...

Thanks and regards

Hannes
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Post by Stauffenberg II » 02 Dec 2004 09:06

Hi Hannes!

I think it´s an award of Norway, the Commander´s Cross of the Olav Order.

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Don´t know who this can be though. I think there could be 3 Austrian ribbons at the right of the ribbon bar. Sorry that I can´t be of more help. Strange that the seller states "Wehrmacht mit Ritterkreuz" without giving a name.

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Post by hec801 » 02 Dec 2004 12:13

Hallo Stauffenberg II,

I thought the same about the sellers information...

Maybe someone else can help regarding the name...

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Hannes

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Post by Kurt Preston » 03 Dec 2004 02:19

I think Stauffenberg is correct that the medal is a Commanders Cross. The military version of the cross was traditionally granted to the commander of the Norwegian armed forces, which may narrow down the field to either Reichskommissar Josef Terboven or GeneralOberst Nikolaus von Falkenhorst. Either of those two may have considered it appropriate for them to wear it. Especially if they wanted to make a point of it to the Norwegian politicians.

Here's a link that contains a picture of a younger Terboven http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/biografien/TerbovenJosef/ that looks very much like a younger version of the man in your picture.

But as I've said, this is very tenative and is essentially guesswork 8O

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Post by JC » 03 Dec 2004 18:48

I don't know who it is, but I don't think it looks much like Terboven or Falkenhorst. The award image appears to have been photographically added to the photo so it is possible that the man is not actually a legitimate holder of the award.

FWIW....... JC

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Post by Michael Miller » 03 Dec 2004 18:52

I'd say it's neither von Falkenhorst nor Terboven. Especially not Terboven, who was released from military service on 20.12.1918 as a Leutnant der Reserve.

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Post by VJK » 03 Dec 2004 19:27

Hi!

It's definately not Falkenhorst either, who was a general der Infanterie before he went to Norway. It may be a former German miitary attache to Norway?

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VJK

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 03 Dec 2004 19:36

The Attache to Denmark, Norway and Sweden was Gen. Lt. Bruno von Uthmann. According to the rank list he had a Prussian EK1, a wound badge in black (1914) and a Bavarian Military Merit Order 4th class (without swords!!!).

I can´t tell you if he is or not and I don´t know if somebody held the position earlier. His "neighbour" (Gen. Maj. Horst Rössing, Attache to Finland) we can rule out considering his awards.

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 04 Dec 2004 09:43

Morning Stauffenberg,

here is for comparison Militärattache von Uthmann (at left) and Botschafter Hans Thomsen (at right) in Stockholm after an audience with the king of Sweden. But this is a pic with poor quality demanding a better example

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 04 Dec 2004 10:06

Morning Dieter!

You have changed your name. :o

I would tend to rule him out, considering his massive ears. :lol:

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Post by hec801 » 26 Jan 2005 18:41

For everybody who's interested:

It's the later Generalleutnant Franz Karl as Kommandeur of the IR 20...

http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/WEHRM ... FRANZ.html

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Post by harmel » 11 Feb 2005 02:16

HI HEC 801 GREAT PHOTO IT IS WHAT YOU SAID GL FRANZ KARL. WELL DONE. HARMEL

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Post by Bjørn from Norway » 10 Nov 2007 18:09

Thir order would not have been given after 9 April 40, so he must ahve got it for some reason before the war.

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