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Royal Thai Navy WW2

Post by Windward » 11 Dec 2004 16:20

[split from the Quiz section-Peter H]

Aside this quiz game, I'm writing an article about Thailand in WW2, and find some high quality pictures of Royal Thai Navy warships, such as HTMS Dhunburi, HTMS Sri Ayuthaiya, HTMS Maeklong and HTMS Machanu class submarines.
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Post by Windward » 11 Dec 2004 16:31

Maeklong class coastal defence ship

Mitsui Uraga Dock

both completed on June 12 1937

1400 tons, 18 knots, 120mm*4, 20mm*1, 450mm torpedo tube*2, 24 mines

Tachin bombed by allied air raia in Jan 1945 and heavily damaged, Maeklong served in RTN till 1960s
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Post by Windward » 11 Dec 2004 16:41

Dhunburi or Dumburi or Thumburi class coast defence ship

their 200mm main guns were disused guns of IJN Furutaka class heavy cruisers

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Post by Windward » 11 Dec 2004 16:48

PS, Dhunburi and Ayuthaya are two former capitals of Siamese/Thai ancient dynasties. Dhunburi locates just westwards to Bangkok, across Chao Phraya River.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 11 Dec 2004 21:31

Thanks Windward for the pics :)

Besides the 8) soundind name of the Thai (Siamese?) coast defence ship it interests me as it's a bit similar as our Finnish coast defence ships Väinämöinen and Ilmarinen
http://www.hut.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/ ... oastal.htm
Specially interesting is that both the Finnish and Thai ships were Diesel powered (our actually Diesel-electric).

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I happen to have few Swedish origin books about world navies: "Marine Kalender" (from 1938 to today). The statistics of Thai torpedoboats of
Trad/Trat class ( 318t, 31knots, 3x75/76, 2x20, 2xmg, 6x450TT) and
Kantan class ( 110t, 18knots, 1x75, 2x20, 2x450TT)
sound intersting. Do you have any pics of them?

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Post by Windward » 12 Dec 2004 10:50

Juha Tompuri wrote:Thanks Windward for the pics :)

Besides the 8) soundind name of the Thai (Siamese?) coast defence ship it interests me as it's a bit similar as our Finnish coast defence ships Väinämöinen and Ilmarinen


The Finnish dual were success design for the purpose they were assigned. I think the reason you feel them similar was they all have two turrets and box shape. Compare them with the slim Swedish one, coastal battleship Sverige.

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Post by Windward » 12 Dec 2004 11:02

Kangtang class patrol boats (Japanese books list them as patrol and coast guard boats, not torpedo boats)

Kangtang
Klongyal
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Ishikawajima shipbuilding, Tokyo, complete June 21 1937

HTMS Dhunburi (out of commission ) on the background
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Post by Windward » 12 Dec 2004 11:06

Line draw of Finnish coast defence ships, based on the line draw above, illustration of the article "Suomi Dual: Coast Defence Ships of Finnish Navy, 1933-1945" in my "War History Studies" Vol. 5. :wink:
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Interesting

Post by Sasu » 26 Dec 2004 13:42

As I know the main gun of Dhunburi still existing, which been used as training material in Thailand navy at least in late 1990s. Also I remember in one of Jp magazine, there are photos of them....

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Re: Interesting

Post by Tiornu » 26 Dec 2004 20:03

The Thonburi guns were a Japanese model, the 200mm gun also mounted aboard Akagi and Kaga. There were many surplus barrels at the time because early heavy cruisers had changed over to the 203mm gun and the carriers had also landed some.
There's a very nice memorial in Thailand in which the superstructure and turrets of a coast defense ship have been laid out on a plot resembling the ship's deck. Unfortunately, the guns are touched with rust on the inside, and the breech mechanisms appear to have been removed.

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OOB for RTNAF

Post by Gary Childress » 17 Sep 2006 22:37

Does anyone know off hand or else of a good website that would give the OOB for the Royal Thai Naval Airforce in WW2? If I'm not mistaken they only used float planes like the Dave, Jake etc. but how many squadrons were there and how many planes of what type for each squadron and where were these units stationed on Dec 22, 1941?

I'm particularly interested in the OOB for Dec 22, 1941 which, if I'm not mistaken, is the date they allied with the Japanese.

I'm looking for this info regarding a mod I'm working on for a pc game.

Thanks for any help.

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Post by Andy H » 18 Sep 2006 15:56

http://niehorster.orbat.com/082_thailan ... ng_05.html

The above is for Dec 8th 1941

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Post by Gary Childress » 19 Sep 2006 00:40

Andy H wrote:http://niehorster.orbat.com/082_thailand/41-12-08/airwing_05.html

The above is for Dec 8th 1941

Regards

Andy H


Thank you for the reply Andy H! Isn't the 5th air wing part of the RTAF though? I was looking for info on the naval air force.

I visited these forums a while back and someone on them had a friend who hosts this site: http://www.geocities.com/thailandwwii/oob.html?200618 So I think I have the regular air force nailed down fairly well. Using the web site you mention above I get the impression that a typical squadron had a standard strength of 9 planes.

I just can't find anything on the naval air force float planes and such. I assume the navy air force consisted of patrol planes and little else? I've combed Google as best I know how and have come up empty so far. :(

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Re: Royal Thai Navy WW2

Post by Wisarut » 23 Jan 2010 09:47

BTW, HTMS Mae Klong has been in used for about 60 year the "teacher ship" until the final retirement around 1996.

It has been plinted at Fort Chulachomklao ever since.

The other ship that escape for fate of being uder the blazing torch or being a bombing target is HTMS Chumporn which has been retired in 1980 ... by the request of the Governor of Chumporn ... This torpido ship has been plinted near Admiral Prince Abhakorn Shrine.

Armiral prince Bhakorn is cosidred as the father of Modern Thai Navy.

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