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Investigations in Baltic countries

Post by Arek » 20 Dec 2004 19:42

Hi,
I want to ask any of you who lives in Baltic countries if there are any investigations into mass murders of soldiers and civilians of your nationality killed by NKWD from 1939 to 1945? , such as we have in Poland nowadays that refers to Katyń mass murder.

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Post by David Thompson » 20 Dec 2004 22:23

Arek -- Welcome to the forum. Here's some starting materials on your question:

Estonia

Gone But Not Forgotten [Estonia]
http://www.time.com/time/europe/webonly/estonia.html

Latvia

Latvia
http://www.am.gov.lv/en/policy/4641/4661/4662/
http://www.roots-saknes.lv/Ethnicities/ ... stWWII.htm

Latvia jails former Soviet partisan Vasily Kononov for war crimes
http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/04/30/partisan.shtml
http://vip.latnet.lv/LPRA/convicts.htm
Putin Praises Former Soviet Partisan
http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7003-9.cfm

Yevgeny Savenko war crimes trial opens in Liepaja
http://vip.latnet.lv/LPRA/savenk.htm
http://www.latvians.com/Mailer/2001_02_10.htm#news3

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Post by Arek » 21 Dec 2004 11:01

Firtsly, excuse me for not posting in right place.

Secondly, thanks for help :) Do you have some materials about such investigations in Finland?

best regards,

Arek

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Post by Lit. » 21 Dec 2004 12:43

Here you can find about Genocide crimes and it investigations in Lithuania:

http://www.genocid.lt/
http://www.komisija.lt/

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Post by Tapani K. » 21 Dec 2004 15:09

You might want to look at this page, too:

http://www.historycommission.ee/


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Tapani K.

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Post by Arek » 22 Dec 2004 16:12

Thanks again, but that`s not end yet :)

Another question is, if there are made researchings that may locate new mass graves, or those about which everyone knows that exists, but are not revelead by Russians yet? Such as we have in Belarus and Ukraine but don`t know where they exactly are.

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Post by Lit. » 22 Dec 2004 17:53

Terror unearthed in the heart of Vilnius (Tuskulenai):

http://vip.latnet.lv/LPRA/TerrorVilnius.htm

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Post by Arek » 26 Dec 2004 21:40

Hi,

what would say about Estonian soldiers that were killed in Katyn and most probably are laying there untill now?? There is such history, when Poles that worked for Todt organization were told to dig there in 1942 by citizens that were living close to Katyn. But first thing that they discovered was Estonian soldier. As they were there to look for Polish bodies they left it behind. Have you ever heard about it?

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Post by David Thompson » 26 Dec 2004 22:07

Arek -- You asked:
what would say about Estonian soldiers that were killed in Katyn and most probably are laying there untill now?? There is such history, when Poles that worked for Todt organization were told to dig there in 1942 by citizens that were living close to Katyn. But first thing that they discovered was Estonian soldier. As they were there to look for Polish bodies they left it behind. Have you ever heard about it?
Let's start with this question, so the readers aren'y sent off on a "snipe hunt": Where did you hear about it?

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Post by Peeter » 27 Dec 2004 18:59

almost all estonian higher rank officers did disappear in 1941, some of them died in labour camps in Siberia, some were executed somewhere.

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Post by David Thompson » 27 Dec 2004 20:18

Sources, please.

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Post by Lit. » 28 Dec 2004 11:16

Here are some sources:

Latvian officers:
http://www.taivaansusi.net/historia/09bdr200.pdf
http://vip.latnet.lv/LPRA/veldre.htm
http://www.historia.lv/publikacijas/gra ... 08.nod.htm
http://vip.latnet.lv/LPRA/fateful_summer.htm

Estonian officers:
http://www.okupatsioon.ee/english/mailbox/herne.html

Lithuanian officers:
"By 1 June 1940, the Lithuanian army with a total of 28 005 servicemen, including 1728 officers, was liquidated. Approximately 12 thousand soldiers and officers were left for service in the 29th territorial corps the authority of the Red Army. The total number of officers sent to camps or imprisoned was 414 (excluding the officers in retirement before the loss of the independence of Lithuania), of which 195 were killed. Including the officers who died or were killed at the outbreak of the USSR-German War (24 officers), the total number of officers killed should be at least 220."
http://www.komisija.lt/doc8.htm

Battles of WW2 in Lithuania 1944-1953 (after some thought that war have ended in 1945):
http://www.bdcol.ee/bdcol/pdf_files/bdr ... bdr100.pdf
http://www.elnet.lt/vartiklis/voruta/kr ... ronicl.htm
http://members.fortunecity.com/heavy_me ... isans.html

Baltic officers in Norillag (Norilsk):
http://www.memorial.krsk.ru/eng/Work/Camps.htm

Communism and Crimes against Humanity in the Baltic states:
http://www.rel.ee/eng/communism_crimes.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/de/Cerskus/english/saitai.html

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Post by David Thompson » 28 Dec 2004 13:57

Thanks, Lit.

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Post by Arek » 28 Dec 2004 22:23

David Thompson wrote:Arek -- You asked:
what would say about Estonian soldiers that were killed in Katyn and most probably are laying there untill now?? There is such history, when Poles that worked for Todt organization were told to dig there in 1942 by citizens that were living close to Katyn. But first thing that they discovered was Estonian soldier. As they were there to look for Polish bodies they left it behind. Have you ever heard about it?
Let's start with this question, so the readers aren'y sent off on a "snipe hunt": Where did you hear about it?
Hi,

there was such article in Polish press that is printed only in Poznan, as I don`t live there I have never had this one in my hands, but my friend,who lives in that city, also interested in this topic read this some time ago. I know that such revelations should be improved but, as I said, I don`t have possibility to copy that article here.

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Arek

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Post by Reigo » 30 Dec 2004 15:44

Consider this hearsay just as information: I have heard from well-informed sources that the Soviets eliminated in one way or another a bit less than 1/3 of the Estonian cadre officers (there were 1 500 of them in 1940). The source is the people who have completed such list and as much as I understood it will be also published.

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