The Siege of Tarnopol 1944 - Request

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The Siege of Tarnopol 1944 - Request

Post by Minotauros » 11 Jan 2005 08:37

Dear Friends!

Between February and April 1944, a German garrison under Generalmajor Egon von Neindorff was besieged by Soviet forces in the Ukrainian town of Tarnopol (Ternopil). This was one of the most fierce battles fought on the Eastern Front at that time.

Who can tell me more about this subject ?

Regards!

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Post by cyberdaemon » 12 Jan 2005 21:20

use google search

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Post by Peter H » 13 Jan 2005 10:23

cyberdaemon wrote:use google search


One could infer that such a response is either helpful,or rude,or arrogant,or condescending.

I assume it is the first.

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Post by tom_deba » 13 Jan 2005 11:38

Positions near Tarnopol were defended by Fuesiller Bataillon Deba commanded by Udo Balzer - that is the only thing I know.

/tom/

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Post by Michate » 13 Jan 2005 12:32

There is a German book about the siege:

Gert Fricke: "Fester Platz Tarnopol"

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Post by Mark V. » 13 Jan 2005 21:16

Units encircled in Tarnopol:

Stab 444.Sich.Div.,
Gren.Rgt.949 & IV./Art.Rgt.359 from 359.Inf.Div.,
Füs.Btl.Demba,
Bew.Btl.500 (penal unit),
LandesSch.Btl. 543,
Alarm-Btl. Mitscherling (III./SS-Freiw.Rgt.4 - Ukranians),
KG Grundmann,
Alarmkp. W.K. 8.Pz.Div.,
Alarmkp. Vogel,
1./Pz.Jag.Abt.357,
1./Stug.Abt.301,
4./FlakAbt.384,
elements from I./SS-Pz.Art.Rgt.1
and some other units.

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Post by tom_deba » 13 Jan 2005 22:18

Mark V., could you give me the source of your last post because I am very interesting about encirclement of Germans near Tarnopol.

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Post by Laurence Strong » 19 Jan 2005 06:39

Wasn't PzGdr Div Gross Deutchland involved at Tarnopol also?

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Post by Mark V. » 19 Jan 2005 15:30

Hi tom, the info comes from Ewald Klapdor: Die Entscheidung, but you can also find it in Alex Buchner: Ostfront 44.

Laurence: no Grossdeutschland formations at Tarnopol.

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Post by Laurence Strong » 19 Jan 2005 17:22

Hi Mark

Your Right. I was thinking of Targul Frumos! :?

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Post by Minotauros » 22 Jan 2005 12:40

Thank you Gentlemen ! :-)

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Post by Abel Ravasz » 22 Jan 2005 13:30

Hi Marko,

outstanding material as always!!!

May I have a "follow up" question about one of the units?

Alarm-Btl. Mitscherling (III./SS-Freiw.Rgt.4 - Ukranians),


What was this for a regiment? An independent Ost regiment?

Thanks,

Abel

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Post by Mark V. » 23 Jan 2005 19:10

Hello Abel,

To my understanding this was part of SS (Polizei) Freiwilligen Regiment 4. The regiment was formed in July 1943 in Lemberg, Galicia. While most of the regiment was stationed there, III./Freiw.Rgt.4 was sent to the Netherlands for occupational duties and was still there in February 1944. It seems it was then moved back to Galicia and used in Tarnopol where it was subsequently destroyed. The regiment was in summer 1944 used as replacements to help reform 14th SS.

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Post by Abel Ravasz » 26 Jan 2005 21:41

Hi Marko,

thanks for the info. I have never heard of such a regiment before - will have to dig into the subject.

Best,

Abel

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Post by tom_deba » 29 Jan 2005 10:52

It seems to me that also 68. Infanterie Division operated in the area of Tarnopol, 1944.

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