German Weapons

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German Weapons

Post by PPoS » 13 Jan 2005 19:50

I need PICTURES of following weapons: NOTE: THAT MANY OF THESE WEAPONS (MAYBE ALL) WERE NEVER USED IN COMBAT, BUT THEY WERE BUILT AND TESTED ! ! ! So don't start to whine :lol:

Panzerfaust 250
Gasfaust
Brandfaust
Flammfaust
Panzerschreck 10,5cm
2cm-Erdkampfgerät
Gewehr 43 with Silencer (Schalldämpfer)
Scheibenhandgranaten
Detonierende Pulverscheibe
Druckbügelmine
Einstossflammenwerfer 46
Kommando-Karabiner
Mauser K98 HUB-23 (Silencer)
Koppelschloßpistole
Volksmaschinengewehr (VMG) 27
Gerät 231
Leichtmetallausführung für Fallschirmjäger
Schwere Panzerbüchse 42
Panzerbüchse 42/27
Nebelwerfer 51 and 52
MK 112
MK 114

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Whine ??

Post by Ju88G1 » 13 Jan 2005 21:15

Why should we whine ? It is you who need the pictures

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Post by PPoS » 13 Jan 2005 22:26

Because there are people that would start saying "That didn't exist, this didn't exist" ect ect..
Sorry if you felt hit. I don't mean to be rude or anything (absolutely NOT) but if you don't have any pictures or information that I require, you should not write anything in here. This topic is NOT about why "you" would whine, it's about my REQUEST.

Sry.

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Post by tom! » 14 Jan 2005 14:24

Hi.

Here are 2 pics of the Koppelschlosspistole

from
Günther Wahl
"Waffenrechnische Kuriositäten"
Journal-Verlag Schwend GmbH

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Post by tom! » 14 Jan 2005 14:45

Hi.

I´ve never heard of something like "Scheibenhandgranaten".

The only handgrenades in this shape I know are the german "Diskushandgranaten 15" from WW1

I attached a pic from

Karl Pawlas
Waffen Revue Nr. 30
Journal-Verlag Schwend GmbH

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Post by Lasse » 14 Jan 2005 15:39

Actually I have heard about the schibenhandgranaten, wasent that the thing that the germans could put in the sight slits on enemy tanks?

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Post by PPoS » 14 Jan 2005 16:53

Thanks alot for those pictures Tom ! !
And lasse from the same country as me, is right.. The Detonierende Pulverscheibe and the Schibenhandgranaten was to be inserted into the sight slits on tanks. Here are some information:

"An invention that was not really a normal handgrenade but shall be mentioned here as a rather interesting idea were the so-called Detonierende Pulverscheibe ("detonating powder disc"), often abbreviated as DPS and later designated by the army as Scheibenhandgranaten ("disc hand grenades") were discs maufactured from Nipolite. Nipolite was a newly invented explosive that didn't require a casing and was easy to manufacture. They were intended as AT devices: the discs had a diameter of 8cm and were only 1.6cm thick. they were to be inserted into the observation slits of tanks. The discs weighed 125g of which 87g were explosive. Several discs could be combined to increase effect. The company WASAG also developed a version of their invention to be used against bunkers and fortified positions which weighed 1kg of which 450g were a combination a Nipolite and phosphor."

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Post by PPoS » 14 Jan 2005 16:55

Any more pics?? :D

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Post by ChrisMAg2 » 17 Jan 2005 09:40

Leichtmetallausführung für Fallschirmjäger


This does not mean to be nessecarely a weapon.
Translated this means: "Light metal version (made of aluminum or so) for paratroopers"
Actually this could be anything and nothing. Or is this line correlated to i.e. Gerät 231?

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Post by PPoS » 17 Jan 2005 20:36

That is correct, a small mistake from my side. Do you have any information about the Gerät 231? I know that it was some kind of AT rifle tested.

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Post by tom! » 18 Jan 2005 17:24

Hi.

"Gerät 231" was the development name of the "schwere Panzerbüchse 41" used during development at Mauser. The standart "Panzerbüchse 41" had a total weight of 224 kg.

The lighter version for paratroops had no armoured shield and smaler wheels. Additionally it was made of lighter materials whereever possible. It had a total weight of 147 kg.

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Post by PPoS » 18 Jan 2005 21:53

Any pictures/drawings/blueprints of the "Gerät 231"? Or any additional information?

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Post by Boone Vidricksen » 20 Jan 2006 04:35

So what did the gasfaust, brandfaust, and flammfaust look like?

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Post by PPoS » 20 Jan 2006 17:19

I don't really remember, but if I'm not wrong, they looked just like the ordinary Pzfst.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 20 Jan 2006 17:40

2cm-Erdkampfgerät
Do you mean the 2 cm Erdkampflafette 151/20?

http://www.panzerworld.net/mg151.html

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