High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 22 Oct 2023 12:58

Hi Antonio,

thank you for these updates with a little bit additional information to these two men.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by alcius » 23 Oct 2023 09:34

Besides Schloetel, I found other aces from Stug.Abt.226.
From Sturmgeschutze Vor- Page 83
22 June 1941, the 3rd battery destroyed 39 enemy tanks.
Leutnant Steinmann -16 kills
Unteroffizier Maibohm - 12 kills
Oberleutnant Einbeck - 7 kills
Leutnant Metzger - 2 kills
Leutnant Moser - 2 kills

Another .
Unteroffizier Bohling - 7 T-34 on 27/8//1944
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... %BChrer%20
1944.08.28 Deutsche Zeitung im Ostland

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 23 Oct 2023 18:57

alcius wrote:
23 Oct 2023 09:34
22 June 1941, the 3rd battery destroyed 39 enemy tanks.
Hello Antonio,

I can add some names ...

Batteriechef Oblt. Günter Einbeck / he fell on 22.8.1942 as a Hauptmann with Stug.Abt. 190
Zugführer Lt. Andreas Steinmann / he died on a Hauptverbandsplatz on 30.7.1941 as an Oberleutnant
Zugführer Lt. Gustav Moser / he is not to be found in the Volksbund database, possibly survived
Zugführer Lt. Karl Metzger / he continued to get the "Deutsches Kreuz in Gold" in May 1942, but died on 22.9.1942 as an Oberleutnant, still with 3./226
Geschützführer Uffz. Hans Maibom / he is not to be found in the Volksbund database, possibly survived


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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by alcius » 26 Oct 2023 09:38

Thanks Oliver
Do you also know the name of Unteroffizier Bohling?

In the meantime I'll add another one.
Oberfeldwebel Georg Straube - 2. / Pz.Jg.Abt. 18 (motorisiert) - KC for 10 kills
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... cle:DIVL10
1943.06.17 Feldzeitung: Nachrichtenblatt einer Armee im Osten

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 26 Oct 2023 20:01

alcius wrote:
26 Oct 2023 09:38
Do you also know the name of Unteroffizier Bohling?
Hello Antonio,

no, unfortunately not. Of course I also had a look for him, but I can't track him down (yet) ...

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 26 Oct 2023 23:55

alcius wrote:
26 Oct 2023 09:38
Oberfeldwebel Georg Straube - 2. / Pz.Jg.Abt. 18 (motorisiert) - KC for 10 kills
Hi Antonio,

good, totally new entry for me :-)

Sounds like he had 10 tank kills in March 1943 (no specific date, most probably during several days of heavy combat) and during one action he collected 20 men for a successful counter-attack.

Anyway, added to the list!

Sidenote: Georg Straube was promoted to Leutnant with RDA 1.7.1944 and was the Ordonanz-Offizier of Pz.Jg.Abt. 18 in April 1945.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by alcius » 27 Oct 2023 14:22

Thanks Oliver

I have a newspaper clipping where we read that Leutnant Sommerfeld with his Sturmgeschutz destroyed 3 panzers, 2 Self-Propelled and 5 paks.???
(from what I understood).
Leutnant Karl-Heinz Sommerfeld -1./ Heeres-Panzerjäger-Abteilung 731 - DKiG on 7 December 1944.

At the bottom of the article Feldwebel Schenk is mentioned as destroying 1 Stalinpanzer, his 14th enemy tanks.
He is Feldwebel Robert Schenk - Panzerjäger-Kompanie 1024 -EBS in 1945.
I'm sure because I had an old note, that on 20 Mar 45 a JS tank was destroyed by the FW. Schenk

http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... C3%BCtz%20
1945.03.20 Deutsche Zeitung im Ostland

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 29 Oct 2023 19:32

alcius wrote:
27 Oct 2023 14:22
Leutnant Sommerfeld with his Sturmgeschutz destroyed 3 panzers, 2 Self-Propelled and 5 paks.??? (from what I understood)
Hello Antonio,

well ..., not exactly. Would have been nice to see some details on an Hetzer man, but no, Leutnant "Sommerfeld" also was from Jgd.Pz.Kp. 1024 like Feldwebel Schenk.

This is Leutnant d.Res. Ernst-August Sonnefeld, Zugführer from Jagdpanzer-Kompanie 1024 of 24. Inf.Div.
He got the EK1 in February 1945 already and was wounded on day after this action, on 4.3.1945.

You can credit him with one Sturmgeschütz and one Bergepanzer (described in the article), while the company score was 14 tanks and at least 5 Pak within two days. Lt. Sonnefeld might have had more tank kills these two days, but they are not described.

He may have survived WW2, as I can't find him in Volksbund database.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 29 Oct 2023 19:45

alcius wrote:
27 Oct 2023 14:22
At the bottom of the article Feldwebel Schenk is mentioned as destroying 1 Stalinpanzer, his 14th enemy tanks.
Hello Antonio,

ah, unfortunately not his 14th tank kill. The article says, that Jagdpanzer-Kompanie 1024 destroyed 14 enemy tanks within two days, that's all.

Fw. Schenk could have more tank kills to his credit of course, but we don't know yet.

The Ehrenblattspange was for action on 18.2.1945 at Viksninas, and naturally he got his EK1 prior to that. And the action described in this newspaper was on 3.3.1945. Fw. Schenk is mentioned with just one sentence in the history of 24. Inf.Div., destroying one Stalin tank that day.

Lt.d.R. Sonnefeld was wounded on 4.3.1945, so I'm pretty sure we have the date fixed for this newspaper article :-)

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by alcius » 30 Oct 2023 16:23

Thanks Oliver
as always.

I found a newspaper clipping that talks about Hauptmann Schering's Panzerjagerkompanie, which destroyed 26 enemy tanks in 2 days.
On the first day it destroyed 21 enemy tanks, of which 11 by the 2 Sturmgeschutz of the Leutnant Gebauer and the Feldwebel Liedtke.
The next day, 5 enemy tanks were destroyed, including 3 from the Feldwebel Liedtke.
I don't know the department.
(I hope I got it right this time)

PS; in the same clipping there are 2 articles concerning, one the Feldwebel Otto Feibicke-EBS in 5./Pz.Rgt 29, and the other the Leutnant Werner Sallermann - DKiG in 5./Pz.Rgt 29.
Unfortunately there are no details of destroyed tanks.

http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... giments%20
1945.01.24 Deutsche Zeitung im Ostland

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 01 Nov 2023 15:24

alcius wrote:
30 Oct 2023 16:23
one the Feldwebel Otto Feibicke-EBS in 5./Pz.Rgt 29, and the other the Leutnant Werner Sallermann - DKiG in 5./Pz.Rgt 29.
Unfortunately there are no details of destroyed tanks.
Hello Antonio,

well, Panzer not always fought against enemy tanks, but also against infantry ... :D

Werner Sallermann died on 20.2.1945 (got the Deutsches Kreuz in Gold on 28.2.1945), while Otto Feibicke got his Ehrenblattspange for action on 21.2.1945 "im Einbruchsraum Spirgus/Lettland", he's not in the Volksbund Database.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 01 Nov 2023 15:39

alcius wrote:
30 Oct 2023 16:23
Hauptmann Schering's Panzerjagerkompanie
Hi Antonio,

this was Hauptmann d.Res. Hans Schering, Chef of 2./Pz.Jg.Abt. 2 (12. Pz.Div.), equipped with Jagdpanzer IV.
Zugführer Leutnant d.Res. Günter Gebauer, which fell in December 1944, January 1945 (no exact date on Volksbund database)
Unfortunately, I have no forename yet for Feldwebel Liedtke.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by alcius » 01 Nov 2023 17:37

Thanks Oliver

About pz.jg.abt.2
Leutnant Hilmar von Veltheim - 1/Pz.Jg.Abt.2 - 9 kills
EBS on 7 October 1944
1944.08.18 Deutsche Zeitung im Ostland
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... eltheim%20

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by Gastolli » 04 Nov 2023 17:26

alcius wrote:
01 Nov 2023 17:37
Leutnant Hilmar von Veltheim - 1/Pz.Jg.Abt.2 - 9 kills
Hello Antonio,

I know his number already (I think from Korps files ?), but it's another example that the Jagdpanzer IV could have been used successfully :-)

The curious thing with Leutnant von Veltheim is:

1) this success here also was reported in the "Wehrmachtsbericht" from 17.8.1944 (mit seinem Zug ausgezeichnet, nordwestlich Bialystok). From archival sources I knew that this was in the period 10. - 13.8.1944, and the mentioned success against soviet armour should have been on 10.8.1944 (at least 19 tank kills reported by Pz.Jg.Abt. 2).

2) his mention in the "Ehrenblatt" was for a "Tat am 20.08.44 bei Snikeres", so AFTER this newspaper article was written! So far I haven't looked further into the operations that day/that area, to know what happened exactly.

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Re: High Scorers with Panzers and Paks

Post by alcius » 05 Nov 2023 10:13

Thanks Oliver

Oberleutnant Gerhard Kleinschmidt - Chef, 2./Stug-Brigade 912 - +7 kills
DKiG on 2/8/1944

There are 4 articles about him
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... atterie%20
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... schmidt%20
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... 0|panel:pa
http://www.periodika.lv/periodika2-view ... schmidt%20

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