*Experimental SELF-PROPELLED GUNS of the Allies - help!*

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*Experimental SELF-PROPELLED GUNS of the Allies - help!*

Post by BIGpanzer » 11 Mar 2005 00:02

Could somebody help me with ANY info and photos of Canadian 3,7" (94mm) AA gun, based on the Ram chassis. I know only that several variants of RAM QF were tested since the end of 1942, but later the work on the project was stopped.

Thanks in advance, BIGpanzer
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Post by Patrice » 11 Mar 2005 07:51

Hello.
No many more information about this Self-propelled AA Gun, it was a attemp in the late 1942 to produce a self-propelled mount for the 3-7in AA mount.
Various modifications (including shield) made during its trial, and the project abandoned after test.
A photo from "British and American Tanks of WWII A&AP"
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Post by BIGpanzer » 11 Mar 2005 21:42

Thanks, Patrice!
But the specifications (weight etc.) of this Ram 94mm AA gun I still couldn't find :(

Also does somebody know any information (specifications, history, photos) about British light tank "Carden-Loyd" Mk.V, armed with two anti-aircraft 12,7mm MG?

Thanks in advance
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Post by Michael Emrys » 12 Mar 2005 02:42

BIGpanzer wrote:Also does somebody know any information (specifications, history, photos) about British light tank "Carden-Loyd" Mk.V, armed with two anti-aircraft 12,7mm MG?


Haven't found anything about a twin-12.7mm AA mount, but there is a brief mention plus photo of one with a twin-15mm Besa AA mount. Apparently only one of these was built as a test model.

There was also a single examply mounting a Boulton-Paul quad mount aircraft turret. Although the article doesn't say, I have every reason to believe the guns were in .303 caliber.

Lastly, there was the Tank, Light AA Mk. I which mounted four Besa 7.92mm MGs. This did go into series production, but I don't have any numbers. It was built on the Mk. VI chassis though.

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British "Carden-Loyd" light tanks with AA MGs

Post by BIGpanzer » 12 Mar 2005 16:42

Hi, Grease_Spot!
Thanks for the reply!

I also found recently the info about twin 15mm AA MG Besa and quad Boulton & Paul AA MG, mounted on Mk.V light tank.

Indeed, a few info is known about Mk.I AA tank (4 x 7,92mm Besa, mounted on Mk.VIA). But they were serially produced! Mk.II AA tank was identical to Mk.I, but had enlarged turret and external ammunition box, mounted on Mk.VIB. Since 1941 the platoon of 4 Mk.II was added to each company of tank battalions.

But for shure also 2 x 12,7mm Vickers water-cooled MGs were mounted on "Carden-Loyd" light tank (Mk.V or Mk.VI without turret). Probably, that was an experimental model. But, unfortunately, I couldn't find any more information :( Even inside "British and American Tanks of WWII A&AP" I couldn't find anything about this model :)


Photo of Mk.V light tank with 2 x 15mm AA Besa:
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Grea ... BesaAA.jpg
Photo of Mk.V light tank with 4 x Boulton & Paul AA MG:
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Grea ... PaulAA.jpg
Photo of Mk.I AA tank (4 x 7,92mm Besa, mounted on Mk.VIA)
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Grea ... kMarkI.jpg
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Post by Aufklarung » 12 Mar 2005 17:57

BIGpanzer

You might try these fellows for your answer about the Ram. A Cdn site with plenty of experienced members world-wide.
http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/

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Post by BIGpanzer » 13 Mar 2005 01:12

Thanks for the advice, Aufklarung!

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Soviet SU-6 AA self-propelled gun

Post by BIGpanzer » 13 Mar 2005 01:21

Also I am trying to find the info about produced amount of Soviet SU-6 (76,2mm AA gun 3K, based on T-26 light tank chassis). Me seems that it was an experimental self-propelled gun....Also I have absolutely no information about it's using during WWII (if so...)

Photo of the Soviet anti-aircraft SPG SU-6 (1935-1936, 5 copies)
is from http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/gall ... SU_6_2.jpg


One more photo ( http://mk-armour.narod.ru/2003/b_02/Photo_46.jpg )
and good drawing ( http://mk-armour.narod.ru/2003/b_02/Draw_19.jpg ) of SU-6.
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Post by BIGpanzer » 19 Mar 2005 17:53

What I could find about Soviet SU-6 AA SP gun.....

Five experimental SU-6 were built in 1935-1937. Weight - 11,3 t, armor - 6-8 mm, crew - 6 men, engine - 90 hp, speed - 21 km/h, armament - 76,2mm AA gun 3K mod. 1931 (48 shells, max. range in altitude - 8-9,8 km, rate of fire - 20 shells/min) + 2 x MG. Fire was possible from fixed state only.
SU-6 was based on T-26 light tank chassis (but elongated and with additional bearing roller).

Additional photo of SU-6:
http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/gall ... SU_6_3.jpg

That's all :)
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Soviet heavy SP gun ISU-130

Post by BIGpanzer » 21 Mar 2005 16:27

I am trying to find some info (exact specifications, amount etc.) about experimental Soviet heavy SP gun ISU-130, armed with 130mm gun, which was built in 1945.
Could anybody help me?

Photos of preserved ISU-130 (Kubinka Russian tank museum) see here:
http://www.jagdtiger.de/SovietTanks/ISU-130-03.jpg
http://www.jagdtiger.de/SovietTanks/ISU-130-01.jpg
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Post by BIGpanzer » 30 Mar 2005 15:04

Nobody would like to help......... :(
Well, hopefully I found something yesterday.

ISU-130 was an experimental Soviet heavy SP gun, armed with modified powerful 130mm navy gun B-13 (ammunition 25 shells, 33.4 kg each) and based on serial ISU-122 design. It was tested in October-December 1944 and June 1945, but was not accepted by the army because of end of WWII and some its disadvantages as low fire rate (two per min) and rare type of 130mm shells. Also the same SP guns with 122mm gun 122BM or BL-9 were produced as experimental SP guns (two were produced).
Specifications of ISU-130: weight 46,3 t; crew 5 men; dimensions 10,18 x 3,07 x 2,48 m; armor up to 120 mm; engine 520 hp; speed 34-40 km/h; range 150-185 km.

Good colour picture of ISU-130: http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/Modern/isu130/130_3.jpg

Photo of the Soviet heavy SP gun ISU-130 (1944, 1 copy)
is from http://armor.kiev.ua:8100/Tanks/WWII/isu122
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Post by BIGpanzer » 01 Apr 2005 20:48

Friends!
I am trying to find the info about Soviet recoilless guns of Kurchevsky type, mounted on trucks and tankettes. There was even small serial production of those guns in USSR in 1930s! 8O Those were very interesting constructions, but I couldn't find more detailed information at present. Please, help with any info, photos or links!

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Post by BIGpanzer » 02 Apr 2005 17:46

Please, any info about Soviet SP Kurchevsky's recoilless guns of 1930s!
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Post by BIGpanzer » 03 Apr 2005 16:13

Nobody, even members from Russia, doesn't know.......... :( :( :(
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Soviet T-27 tankette with 76mm Kurchevsky's recoilless gun

Post by BIGpanzer » 08 Apr 2005 17:22

Ok, nobody wants to help, probably……… :cry: :wink: .

As for me, I really could find very few information about Soviet 76,2mm recoilless gun “K” (engineer - Kurchevsky) on the T-27 mod. 1931 tankette chassis. The automatic recoilless gun had 6 kg shells (ammunition – 30 shells), range of fire near 7 km, initial velocity – 300 m/s; rate of fire 20 shells/min.

I found some specifications of that SP gun: weight 2,68 t; crew 2 men; speed 40-45 km/h; engine GAZ-AA 40 hp; range 110-120 km; armor 6-10 mm. That light SPG with recoilless gun was built in 1933 under the name SU-76K (SU-3) for planned service in reconnaissance units of infantry and cavalry divisions. During ground tests in April 1933 recoilless gun of tankette exploded because of double loading.

I know that tankette T-27 was used also as chassis for SP guns with 37mm “Hotchkiss” gun (several were produced in 1931 as T-27M or T-27S with special trailer for ammunition) and with 76,2mm regimental gun mod.1927 (three half-opened SU-76 were produced).

Photo of the Soviet T-27 tankette with 37mm Hotchkiss gun and ammunition trailer (T-27M): http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/t27/t27_10.jpg
Photo of the Soviet T-27 tankette with 76mm regimental gun (SU-76):
http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/t27/t27_14.jpg

Photo of the Soviet self-propelled gun SU-76K with 76.2mm recoilless gun, based on tankette T-27 (1933, 1 copy)
is from http://www.battlefield.ru/tanks/t27
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