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Post by Logan Hartke » 10 Sep 2002 04:27

Does anyone have any pics or at least info on the sale of 10 PzKpfw Is and SdKfz 221 & 222 armored cars to China in 1935?

I found a bit...

10 of these German vehicles served with the 3rd tank battalion in 1937 at Nanking. Vehicles received from Germany in their dark grey delivery scheme. While at Nanking most were marked with the Kuomintang sunburst national insignia, but tactical markings were carried by this unit.


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...but that's about all.

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Post by Robert Hurst » 29 Nov 2002 15:21

Hi Logan

I was looking through a book of mine last evening and I came across the following photo.

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Post by Logan Hartke » 29 Nov 2002 18:42

That's neat, thanks.

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Post by Kurt_Steiner » 09 Apr 2004 10:51

Are the soldiers wearing the German-like helmets German soldiers or Chinese members of the Kuomintang? Too small to be Germans, I think. Perhaps I'm saying non-sense

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Post by Eden Zhang » 09 Apr 2004 12:29

Kurt_Steiner wrote:Are the soldiers wearing the German-like helmets German soldiers or Chinese members of the Kuomintang? Too small to be Germans, I think. Perhaps I'm saying non-sense

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I think the Chinese army back then did make use of German style helmets. At lostbatallions.com they make a comparison between their helmets, original helmets and Chinese ones.

Though I may be the one talking non-sense :)

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Post by Kurt_Steiner » 09 Apr 2004 15:36

Thanks for the info. I hope both of us are not making a fool of ourselves talking non-sense. :P

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Post by HKC01 » 10 Apr 2004 02:55

I am a chinese as well, so I can give some info related to it.
It was heard that Chinese nationalist army did purchase a series of weapons from Germany, including 88mm AA guns, 150mm Horwitzer and noticably the Mauser rilfes and Mauser C96 pistol~~~in Chinese it was nicknamed as "BOX-SIZED CANNONs". A small no of MP28 were purchased by Chinese as well.

The M35 helmets were supplied by Germany, it was heard that Chinese Elite division equipped with M35 helmets even earlier than their German counterpart. Chinese did duplicate the Mauser rifles, C96 pistols, M-35 helmets and many of them.
Undoubtedly, the German-made weapons caused a huge casulty upon the japanese invaders. Japanese gov did repeatedly make a series of protests against Germany for this practice.


Actually many experienced German officers worked as the advisors of Chinese nationalist army from 1920s to 1930s, which was approved by Hilter initially until 1938.
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Post by Eden Zhang » 11 Apr 2004 13:01

HKC01, those pictures don't work for some reason.

Also, I'm not calling you a liar, but do you have any sources for your claims?

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Post by Sander D » 22 Apr 2004 16:29

Came a cross it on this site:

http://members.tripod.com/~France40/temp/chinese.html

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