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Vielfachwerfer / Reihenwerfer

Post by Trommelfeuer » 04 Jun 2005 22:59

What's mounted on top of this Maultier....? a katyusha ?

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Post by PanzerMonkey » 04 Jun 2005 23:07

That is a 8cm R-Vielfachtwerfer auf m gep Zgkw S305(f). These 8cm rockets were copied from the Kaytusha later on in the war and were used almost exclusively by the Waffen SS.

From Encyclopedia of German Tanks of WWII:
At Rouen in May 1944, versions with the 8cm R-Vielfachwerfer (multiple rocket launcher) and Reihenwerfer (tiered launcher) were demonstrated. The R-Vielfachwerfer was the launcher for the 24 fin-stabilized rockets adopted by the Waffen SS. The Rheinwerfer on the S202 was fitted with 20 rockets.

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Post by Trommelfeuer » 05 Jun 2005 00:19

Ah alright! never heard of this project before. thanx a lot! :)

(shame on me, if I had used the forum search, I would have found the answer, anyway, nice photo. isn't it :wink: ....)

two more photos:
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Post by brano » 05 Jun 2005 09:10

Ad.Katyusha

This is german modification russian rocket launcher BM-8-48 and M-8 rockets.Installed to SOMUA MCL(S303(f)) and armored Opel Maultier(SSVielfachwerfer-1.jpg).

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Post by jopaerya » 05 Jun 2005 17:29

Hi All

The 2 fotos are taken on 30-05-1944 in Riva Bella (Normandy)
the halftracks are from the 21 Panzerdivision .
It was a testfirering from a 8 cm Reihenwerfer (mortars) and the
Salvengeschutz (rockets) from the 21 Panzerdivision
and 15cm and 21cm Neberwerfer from the Werferbrigade 7.
The testfirering was visited by Gen Feldm. Rommel and nearly
all the generals in the West.

Regards Jos

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Post by MD650 » 05 Jun 2005 19:05

The third photo is from SS-Vielfachwerfer batteri 521 under SS-Hauptsturmführer Flecks.
The battery was fighting in Estonia during the summer of 1944 with 3.SS Pzcorps.
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Post by PK » 08 Jun 2005 17:21

Correct name is Flecke - Friedrich Flecke - Hstuf and MIA in April 1945 / Berlin.

/PK

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Post by MD650 » 08 Jun 2005 17:54

PK wrote:Correct name is Flecke - Friedrich Flecke - Hstuf and MIA in April 1945 / Berlin.

/PK


Of course..... :oops:
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Post by PPoS » 10 Jun 2005 09:59

What exacltly was the "Reihenwerfer"?

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Post by Trommelfeuer » 10 Jun 2005 20:13

PPoS wrote:What exacltly was the "Reihenwerfer"?


The fourth photo shows one, Mittlerer Schützpanzerwagen S307(f) mit Reihenwerfer, sixteen 8cm mortars [8-cm-Brandt-Werfer 27/31 (Gr.W. 278(f)) ] mounted on APC Somua.

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Post by Rommel8 » 10 Jun 2005 21:35

how effective were these?

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Post by jopaerya » 11 Jun 2005 08:24

Hi All

The Mitteler Schützpanzerwagen S 307(f) had 20 barrels for
mortars , please see the picture from the 21 Panzerdivision
and on the other picture you can see mortars exploding on the
water .
If this was a infanterieadvance you would not be glad to be there
with 20 exploding mortarsgrenades.
Fotos from "Gen.Feld Rommel" from Hans Sakkers

Regards Jos

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Post by Trommelfeuer » 11 Jun 2005 09:08

Jopaerya, your photo shows the Reihenwerfer-Schießgerät (R.G.) 16 ( 20x 8cm mortars on Zugkraftwagen S 303(f) ), the fourth photo shows the 16x 8cm mortars mounted on Schützenpanzer S 307(f). :wink:

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Post by jopaerya » 11 Jun 2005 09:34

Hello Trommelfeuer

I know the data from "Achtung Panzer" and ""Lexikon der
Wehrmacht" but there were only 8 Reihenwerfer in the 21
Panzerdivision 4 for the 10/192 and 4 for the 10/125 so
why did they use 2 different vehicles ?
Also the 4th picture is heavy retouch .
I also see that even the "Experts" have it very difficult
with the naming of the French halftracks with the right
German code names.
Maybe you got more German info and you want to share
it with us .

Regards Jos

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