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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Sturm78 » 16 Feb 2013 17:26

Hi all,

Leyland Hippo truck in Luftwaffe service:

Image from Ebay
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by SIS 5 » 20 Feb 2013 15:36

Hi Sturm 78,

thank You very much for posting this very interesting pic of a captured Leyland Hippo. I´ve never seen a pic of a "Hippo" in German service. It must be a very rare specimen.

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Bert

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Jose85 » 12 Mar 2013 11:51

Long wheelbase 1939 Dodge Photo from eBay.de
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Sander D » 12 Mar 2013 19:55

Accourding the seller this picture was taken in Croatia ( expired E-bay sale).
It shows a armoured car build on a .........?.

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Bigger pic:
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/640/ar ... nincro.jpg

Cheer

Sander

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Bill Murray » 12 Mar 2013 21:24

Hi Jose85:

I just wanted to thank you for posting the photo of the Dodge.
I don't know if you have the location where the photo was taken, but I do know that Strømmen Verket in Norway did several series of long wheelbase Dodges mainly for use as taxi and hire cars from around 1935 up till ?? I don't have a photo of a 1939 model in my database but it is possible this may be one of those if the photo were taken in Norway.

In any case, a valuable addition to my photo research data base.

Bill

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Bill Murray » 12 Mar 2013 21:31

Hi Sander:

Very interesting photo you post there.

The wheel and tyre equipment fairly "shout" British/Bedford and yet the machine gun is on the right and the drivers visor is on the left indicating left hand drive.

Armoured vehicles are not in my field of interest, but in looking at so many thousands of photos over the years, the design of the front of the vehicle resembles some Polish armoured cars I seem to remember from years ago. Or, maybe it was Czech vehicles.

In any case, a bit of a rare bird I suspect.

Bill

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by kerryboo » 13 Mar 2013 10:44

I am not sure if this is the correct thread, but....
This photo appears to show a right-hand drive Adler g3d. Are these vehicles known to have been made for export, or other purposes, as rhd?
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Jose85 » 13 Mar 2013 12:09

Hello Bill,
sorry no info about the location of the Dodge.

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Bill Murray » 13 Mar 2013 12:11

Hi Kerry:

I have looked long and hard at your photo and I have come to the conclusion that it is the angle and distance of the photo that makes it look as if it is RHD. I don't think it is.

I also researched the vehicle and although over 4,000 were made and some exported, I could not come up with any discussion of any RHD versions. I could be wrong of course but that is where I have gotten to so far.

Bill

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Bill Murray » 13 Mar 2013 12:12

Thanks Jose, it was worth a try anyhow.
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by kerryboo » 13 Mar 2013 12:42

Hello again Bill,

I think you are right, the angle and distance combine to "move" the wheel. I tried a closer, more detailed scan, but I think that it became even more confused!
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Larry Hayward » 14 Mar 2013 01:23

Regarding the beute armoured car above, the wheels do not look like a standard Morris Commercial, Bedford MW, Guy or Humber as far as I can tell but they do look 'British'.

I thought the wheels may identify it as a Ford WOT 2 - then the mudguards do not match.

But then I thought the vehicle could be on an early Morris Commercial CS8 4x2 chassis that had very similar mudguards?
It certainly looks as if the vehicle is 4x2 too

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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Varadero » 14 Mar 2013 10:27

In addition to the pictures of Sander two photo's of same armoured car. Was improvised by Germans in Croatia. From old ebay.
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Piotr Mikołajski » 14 Mar 2013 13:53

I guess that answer can be found in the book "Oklopna Vozila i Oklopne Postrojbe u Drugom Svjetskom Ratu u Hrvatskoj, II. dio" or "Armored Units and Vehicles in Croatia During WWII, Vol.2" → http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/th ... 318841329/
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Re: Beute- and Umbauwagen

Post by Sander D » 14 Mar 2013 19:34

Hi Bill,

I hade the same thoughs, it look likes a bedford (MWD) only the wheel is on the wrong side.
I can't say where this vehicle would based on.
It's indeed a interesting and rare conversion,

Varadero,

Thanks for showing these picture, now we can se the whole vehicle.
It a great conversion.

Regards

Sander

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