Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

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Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by jerseybunkers » 30 Jun 2005 22:20

Having visited TB Nordlandet and TB Hambara on our visit to Norway last weekend. We were puzzled as to how these worked.

What sort of mounting was the torpedo fired from? how fast did it come out to clear the wall?

I atttach a picture of Hambara, any info would be appreciated.

Thanks from Jeremy In Jersey (No TB'S here!)
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Post by Juha Hujanen » 01 Jul 2005 18:14

Hi Jeremy

These 2 pics might give an idea how torpedo was fired.

Source:Der Zweite Weltkrieg im Bild.Band II von Stalingrad bis Nurnberg.

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Post by jopaerya » 01 Jul 2005 20:28

Hi Juha

Both fotos are taken in Flushing (Vlissingen) in Holland
there were 2 torpedotubes to protect the Westerschelde
Later in the war the batteries were changes to fire Spinne-
torpedos ( the topedos were guided by wire , at the end of
the torpedo there was a light so the operator could guide the
torpedo to the target)

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Post by Juha Hujanen » 02 Jul 2005 19:19

Thank's Jos for info!.

I wonder how cold such a position would be for torpedo gunner in Norway where there would be a cold breeze from sea...

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Post by Erik E » 06 Jul 2005 19:23

The 4 tubes used in Hambaara were taken from the aft battery on the German destroyer "Theodor Riedel" which was Heavily damaged in Trondheim.

The one used in Nordlandet was also a 4x53cm Battery, but of Dutch origin.

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Post by jopaerya » 06 Jul 2005 20:11

Hi All

Here a foto of the torpedobunker in Flushing
Foto=Bundesarchiv Koblenz

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Post by Erik E » 06 Jul 2005 22:07

Nice one Jos!
Never seen photos of a TB outside Norway before!

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Post by jopaerya » 25 Aug 2007 08:31

Hello All

Who has any information about the Torpedobatterie at
Bokfjord near Kirkenes was it build ??? it't still there ???

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Post by kstdk » 25 Aug 2007 10:32

Hello Jos

Answer: Yes and Yes :D

Please see: Scroll down, very nice large pictures.

http://www.kystfort.com/forum/topic70.h ... edobatteri

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Post by jopaerya » 25 Aug 2007 11:01

Thanks Kurt

Just what I was looking for , I only found that it's was in buildingphase
but as your photo's show ot was ready and is still there , here 2 photo's
of the torpedobatterie Siebruniemi near Petsamo ( Fortification.ru ) .
The original plan was to builds the 2 torpedobatteries with 3 tubes , but
on the photo's from Kirkenes it looks there were 2 bunkers for 2 tubes ?

Regards Jos
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Post by Erik E » 26 Aug 2007 18:41

I only found that it's was in buildingphase
but as your photo's show ot was ready and is still there
The bunker itself was most likely ready to use, but the entrance area was never completed. No doors or entrance defences in place, just a big hole going straight into the bunker. According to Fjørtofts book "Tyske kystfort i Norge" the torpedotubes never arrived in time to get installed!
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Post by jopaerya » 26 Aug 2007 19:18

Hello Erik

Could it be possible that the "entrance" was to be the place were the third bunker
had to be build , because on the plan Petsamo and Kirkenes had each 3 tubes .

Regards Jos
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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by Guillaume_L » 14 May 2008 09:54

Hello,

First post for me...

Torpedo bunker in Norway and in Brest in Brittany / France !
Two links from French cultural heritage :

Roscanvel, Pointe de Cornouaille, Au ras de l'eau, à l'est de la batterie de Beaufort
Poste de lancement de torpilles (pour torpille de type G7a modèle 1938 propulsée par air comprimé)
http://www.s161221050.onlinehome.fr/Geo ... 01815.html

and

Roscanvel, Pointe Robert, Au ras de l'eau, à l'ouest de la caserne défensive
Poste de lancement de torpilles (pour torpille de type G7a modèle 1938 propulsée par air comprimé)
http://www.s161221050.onlinehome.fr/Geo ... 02306.html


I am looking for informations about this bunkers...
construction and other...


Regards

Guillaume L.

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Re: Torpedo Bunkers in Norway

Post by jopaerya » 14 May 2008 10:58

Hello Guillaume

First a welcome on this Forum , the torpedo bunkers at Pointe de Cornouaille and Fort Robert
are nearly identical in form a very long room with 2 small rooms in the back and in front the
torpedo tube's . In the place where the torpedo tube's were there is also a sort a emergency
door and on the other side a stair to the small command post .
On the other side of the Goulet there was also a torpedobattery on a "boat" a so called
"schwimmende torpedobatterie" .

In 1944 there were plans to equip the the vital harbours with so called "Spinnetorpedos"
they were wire guided torpedo's , there were plans for Lorient for sure .
In La Pallice the were plans to used the torpedotube's of the Z 23 and placed on a pontoon
and would be docked at the Amerika Mole .

Regards Jos

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