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Alanmccoubrey · Post by **Alanmccoubrey** » 02 May 2011 08:33

Björn, The tactical sign is for a Heavy Howitzer Battery not a Werfer unit. The unit sign might be for Armeekorps XVII which had a dark shield with a white cross on it.

B Hellqvist · Post by **B Hellqvist** » 02 May 2011 13:08

Thanks for the reply! After checking XVVII AK's sign, I'm not convinced. As for the tac sign, it might not be clear in the pic, but there's a dot on the middle on the vertical line, which according to Christoph Awender's site designates a heavy werfer unit. A plain line is for a Batterie 15cm Kanone K18 (motZ). I'm still confused...

Leo Niehorster · Post by **Leo Niehorster** » 02 May 2011 16:54

If the symbol indeed has a dot on its stem, it indicates a heavy "Mörser" (lit. Mortar, usually translated as Howitzer), halftracked-towed, battery. This could be equipped with 21cm, 35,5cm, or 35,5cm caliber weapons.

(I seem to be having some trouble seeing the dot...) Otherwise its a heavy gun ("Kanone") battery.

Leo

Alanmccoubrey · Post by **Alanmccoubrey** » 02 May 2011 17:15

Björn, As Leo says the "dot" in the middle, and I believe there is a dot, indicates a heavy howitzer battery. It would only be by them adding the 21 and 18 as in Christoph's example that you could tie it down to a specific weapon.

Luftflotte2 · Post by **Luftflotte2** » 03 May 2011 02:58

Panzergruppe 3 I think.

B Hellqvist · Post by **B Hellqvist** » 09 May 2011 01:34

Another SdKfz with a unit marking I haven't been able to identify:

Any help is greatly appreciated.

B Hellqvist · Post by **B Hellqvist** » 10 May 2011 11:28

I've done some research, and it has boiled down to probably be a vehicle from one of the following units: Pionier-Bataillon 9, Pionier-Bataillon 29, or Pionier-Bataillon 49. I haven't been able to find any unit signs used by them, and the sign doesn't match those of the divisions they were attached to.

Luftflotte2 · Post by **Luftflotte2** » 12 May 2011 02:21

Can anyone ID this Luftwaffe unit please?
from ebay.de

carius · Post by **carius** » 13 May 2011 10:47

320. Inf. Div. (?)

George

carius · Post by **carius** » 17 May 2011 04:50

Münchner Flak-Regiment

George

Luftflotte2 · Post by **Luftflotte2** » 20 May 2011 16:24

Dog and a Dragon
from ebay.de

B Hellqvist · Post by **B Hellqvist** » 22 May 2011 12:20

B Hellqvist wrote:I've done some research, and it has boiled down to probably be a vehicle from one of the following units: Pionier-Bataillon 9, Pionier-Bataillon 29, or Pionier-Bataillon 49. I haven't been able to find any unit signs used by them, and the sign doesn't match those of the divisions they were attached to.

Answering my own question... After checking other photos from the same lot, which show locations that made the parent division traceable, it appears like the SdKfz is from the Pionier-Bataillon 49, which belonged to the 10. Panzer-Division. A photo of the driver in tropical uniform confirms this, as the 10. PD was sent to Tunisia after a stint in Russia (also evident from some photos).

Alanmccoubrey · Post by **Alanmccoubrey** » 23 May 2011 11:30

B Hellqvist wrote:
B Hellqvist wrote:I've done some research, and it has boiled down to probably be a vehicle from one of the following units: Pionier-Bataillon 9, Pionier-Bataillon 29, or Pionier-Bataillon 49. I haven't been able to find any unit signs used by them, and the sign doesn't match those of the divisions they were attached to.
Answering my own question... After checking other photos from the same lot, which show locations that made the parent division traceable, it appears like the SdKfz is from the Pionier-Bataillon 49, which belonged to the 10. Panzer-Division. A photo of the driver in tropical uniform confirms this, as the 10. PD was sent to Tunisia after a stint in Russia (also evident from some photos).

10 PD didn't go to Tunisia "after a stint in Russia" but after being rebuilt in France from May 1942 and being used in the occupation of Vichy.

B Hellqvist · Post by **B Hellqvist** » 23 May 2011 22:20

Alanmccoubrey wrote:
B Hellqvist wrote:
B Hellqvist wrote:I've done some research, and it has boiled down to probably be a vehicle from one of the following units: Pionier-Bataillon 9, Pionier-Bataillon 29, or Pionier-Bataillon 49. I haven't been able to find any unit signs used by them, and the sign doesn't match those of the divisions they were attached to.
Answering my own question... After checking other photos from the same lot, which show locations that made the parent division traceable, it appears like the SdKfz is from the Pionier-Bataillon 49, which belonged to the 10. Panzer-Division. A photo of the driver in tropical uniform confirms this, as the 10. PD was sent to Tunisia after a stint in Russia (also evident from some photos).
10 PD didn't go to Tunisia "after a stint in Russia" but after being rebuilt in France from May 1942 and being used in the occupation of Vichy.

...and then sent to Tunisia, where it surrendered on 12 May, 1943.

Alanmccoubrey · Post by **Alanmccoubrey** » 24 May 2011 11:34

I suppose it is your English that makes you repeat that, no one is disputing that 10 PD went to Tunisia but the fact that you wanted them to go there straight from Russia.

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