2cm Flak Vierling auf T-34

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2cm Flak Vierling auf T-34

Post by Christoph Awender » 27 Sep 2002 12:12

Hello!

According to the Gliederung of s.Pz.Jg.Abt.653 of 1.Juli 1944 the Fla-Zug of the Stabskompanie under command of Stabsfeldwebel Voigt had 1x 2cm Flak-Vierling, 1x 2cm Flak-Vierling auf russ.T-34, 1x 2cm Flak-Vierling auf Sfl.

The T-34 must look interesting. Is there a foto anywhere?

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Post by Daniel L » 27 Sep 2002 13:00

I've answered your question on feldgrau.

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Post by Marcus » 27 Sep 2002 16:03

This is from achtungpanzer.com

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One of the most interesting conversions based on T-34/76 (model 1943) chassis was 2cm Flakvierling auf Fahrgestell T-34(r), an anti-aircraft tank. Also known as Flakpanzer T-34(r), it was armed with 20mm Flakvierling 38, which was a four barreled 20mm anti-aircraft L/115 gun. The armament was mounted in a turret made by field workshop using armor plates from damaged half-tracks. Ammunition was stored in metal cases on a rack at the rear of the vehicle. It served with headquarters of schwere Heeres Panzerjaeger Abteilung 653, on the Eastern Front in early and mid 1944.
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/t34.htm

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Post by Michael Kenny » 27 Sep 2002 17:49

A photo is much better
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Post by Marcus » 27 Sep 2002 17:51

Michael,

Thanks for sharing that excellent photo.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 27 Sep 2002 18:15

As I have understood, it was more of a vehicle made by individual unit than an actual production vehicle. Sorta like the first pre-production Wirbelwinds, in the Hitlerjugend Flakabteilung

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Post by Daniel L » 27 Sep 2002 18:53

Nice avatar Christian, almost like a new hair- do! :wink:

As I understand it the conversions only existed within the Elefant Abteilung. So I guess it's to be called a field conversion.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 27 Sep 2002 19:29

Thanks - I had this one a while ago, and now I've went back to it I try to change avatar every so often, so that people can't recognize me 8)

A bit like the Panzer with the bolted on Pz.Kpfw. IV turret. A single vehicle conversion...

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Thanks!

Post by Christoph Awender » 27 Sep 2002 19:30

Hello!

Thanks to all for the help!

According to the KTB the conversions were made by the Waffenmeister Stabsfeldwebel Anton Brunnthaler of the Werkstattkompanie 653 who was a skilled man and loved to do such experiments.
He made this 2cm Vielrings T-34, a Bergepanther with 2cm Vierling and 2 T-34 ammo transporter.

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Post by Kurt_Steiner » 09 May 2004 09:20

From what I have read, there were very Flakpanzer T-34s(r) on service. Why? Because the German didn't captured many T-34s? Because they were too useful as T-34 to make the transformation? Lack of interest?

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Post by nacho » 09 May 2004 19:43

Hello to all:
I don't know if is an ammunition or towing/repair vehicle, but indeed is T 34 based, also ignore if it's belong to 653 sPzJdgAbt or not, but think the pic is very interesting and worth a post.
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