Pz35(t) turrets in Denmark?

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Pz35(t) turrets in Denmark?

Post by Erik E » 09 Oct 2005 00:57

Did they exsist??
If so, any idea how many??

For those interested, I have another thread on the same issue here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 830#780830

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Post by Grigory » 09 Oct 2005 08:07

Really, they exsist. 49 turrets (removed from Pz 35(t) when converting them into Morserzugmittel 35(t) prime mover) were used in coastal defence in Denmark and France.
Several turrets removed from damaged tanks were installed on armoured trains.

http://www.mk-armour.narod.ru/2003/04/Photo_26.jpg

http://www.mk-armour.narod.ru/2003/04/Photo_28.jpg

The first photo show armoured train of wehrmaht and the second one - of Slovakian army.

Source: "LT vs 35 light tank" by M.Kniazev, "Bronekollecia" (Armour Collection) magazine (in Russian).

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Post by kstdk » 09 Oct 2005 11:09

Hello Erik

As far as I can see, no Pz 35 (t) were actually put into service in Denmark.

We had a lot of Pz I - Pz II and Pz 38 (t), but until now i have not been able to find any Pz 35 (t) in my records ??

I will of cource look further into this and give an answer if i find any !!

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Oct 2005 11:23

Hi Erik

On the list from Denmark 15-01-1945 , I can only find 11 turrets
for the Pz.Kwf. 38 (t) and no 35 (t) , there are also 4,7 cm (t)
but this was for the 631 and V.F. 4,7 cm Pak K 36 and also the
normal 4,7 Pak 36 (t) .

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Post by Erik E » 09 Oct 2005 14:49

So....A possible answer is that the turrets which were heading for Denmark ended up in Norway?
Afterall, there are atleast 28 turrets on buildinglists from 1944, but as usual, it`s impossible to tell how many of them acually arrived! So far 8 are confirmed 100%, 20 more to go!

So far, none of the books or documents posted in this thread, or in the Panzer section include Norway....
Why could that be??

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Post by jopaerya » 10 Oct 2005 05:17

Hi Erik

Can you help me , I am a little bit confusted . I was checking
my papers on the tankturets the drawings and the info said that
the Pk.Kpw. 35 (t) had a 3,7 cm gun , the original tank had a 4,7 cm
gun , is this a German typo or did they changed the guns ?????
I was looking for 4,7 tankturrets in Denmark , so maybe ??

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Post by Erik E » 10 Oct 2005 15:31

Can you help me , I am a little bit confusted . I was checking
my papers on the tankturets the drawings and the info said that
the Pk.Kpw. 35 (t) hat a 3,7 cm gun , the original tank hat a 4,7 cm
gun , is this a German typo or did they changed the guns ?????
Hallo Jos!
My books says the original Pz35(t) had a 3,7cm KwK!
The 4,7cm was a German adaption, but not used in this turret as far as I know.

Anyway, before the 35(t) was installed on bunkers, the frontplate withKwK38(t) and MG37(t) from Pz38(t) turrets were installed, so we are definately looking for a 3,7cm KwK(t)

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Post by jopaerya » 10 Oct 2005 15:56

Hello Erik

You are right Erik , the Pz 35 (t) had the Skoda 37 mm L/48
but also the 37 mm L/40 , the same gun as the Pz 38 (t) .
So both tankturrets on land had the 3,7 cm K.w.K. 38 (t).

Thanks and Regards Jos

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Post by Erik E » 15 Oct 2005 17:23

Since no one have found any proof of Pz35(t) turrets in Denmark......
Do you agree that these turrets were most likely shipped to Norway instead??

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Post by jopaerya » 15 Oct 2005 18:56

Hello Erik

I think that you are right that the Pz 35 (t) turrets were shipped to
Norway , found some info that the Pz 35 (t) in France were used together
with Pz 38 (t) at the border with Spain .
Do you have a picture's of these Pz 35 (t) gunturret ????

Regards Jos

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Post by Erik E » 15 Oct 2005 19:25

Do you have a picture's of these Pz 35 (t) gunturret ????
As many as you want!
Just tell me what details you want :)

Note the frontplate is identical to the 38(t)
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Post by Erik E » 15 Oct 2005 19:28

Here`s a 38(t)......
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Post by jopaerya » 15 Oct 2005 19:36

Hello Erik

Thanks , I never seen them before .

Regards Jos

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Post by Dan Mouritzsen » 16 Oct 2005 00:41

Hi

There were Pz. 35 turrets in use here in Denmark. You will just have to wait until Ole Hviid Tønnesen get home from Copenhagen to get the info on how many and where they were situated!

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Post by SES » 16 Oct 2005 10:41

Hi,
Since "the corck is off the bottle" have anyone got a good picture or drawing of a Pz II with a KwK 30 on a ringstand.
bregds
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