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Re: italian submarines

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Post by Carl Schwamberger » 26 Apr 2019, 16:15

LColombo wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 23:22
Carl Schwamberger wrote:
25 Apr 2019, 19:01
There are two contra currents running through the Gibraltar strait. A warm water current near the surface and a dense swift cold current below. Transiting the contact level between these could create problems for the sub.
This problem, however, should have been the same for both Italian and German submarines.
I've seen claim the Italians were aware of the current pattern. Conversely the Germans were unaware, or if aware failed to use the information. I suspect the British were aware, but not seen any evidence.

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Re: italian submarines

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Post by tigre » 16 Nov 2019, 02:54

Hello to all :D; more ..................................
BETASOM - France.
Sources: https://www.ebay.de/itm/V186-original-F ... 2076805270

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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German soldiers visiting an Italian Smg in the port of Bordeaux.....................................
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Re: italian submarines

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Post by tigre » 09 Feb 2020, 14:56

Hello to all :D; more ..................................
Smg in action - refueling at sea!
Sources: Illustrierter Beobachter 1942. Folge 32.

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In order not to interrupt operations, the smg must be resupplied at sea.....................
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Refueling off the American coast......................................

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Re: italian submarines

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Post by LColombo » 09 Feb 2020, 17:15

I think this is Finzi refuelling Morosini (21 tons of oil), in March 1942.

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Re: italian submarines

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Post by tigre » 09 Feb 2020, 21:36

Thanks for that input :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Re: italian submarines

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Post by tigre » 16 Feb 2020, 20:14

Hello to all :D; more ..................................
Smg in action - Italian submarines in the Atlantic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF8m61_ernk

Sources: Sommergibilisti italiani in Atlantico. Episodi gloriosi dei nostri sommergibilisti operanti in Atlantico.

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Re: italian submarines

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Post by AllenM » 16 Feb 2020, 22:29

A book in English about Italian submarines is coming in May.

https://www.amazon.com/BETASOM-Submarin ... s&sr=1-191

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Re: italian submarines

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Post by tigre » 19 Aug 2023, 17:46

Hello to all :D; more ..................................

The end of an Italian submersible.

For hours an Italian submersible was shadowed by a British destroyer in the central Mediterranean. Depth charges were dropped repeatedly; the submersible fought hard, but eventually conditions became so bad that the boat had no choice but to blow her tanks and surface. The hunt was over, only remained the kill with the support of a seaplane. The British destroyer having claimed her victory, stood by to rescue the crew of her victim.

Source: The Sphere. November 9, 1940.

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The Italian submersible is forced to surface; a bomb dropped by the RAF flying-boat barely misses the target.............
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The submersible on the surface, the crew rushed up on deck and abandons the boat..................................
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The end of another Italian submersible, the ship sinks from the stern and only the bow emerges before the final dive..................................
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Re: italian submarines

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Post by Canoga » 21 Aug 2023, 11:05

Hello tigre,

here we are on 30 september 1940, when the australian destroyer HMAS Stuart hunted the italian submarine Gondar (Gondar was embarking 3 SLC - siluri a lenta corsa - human torpedoes and ten I Flottiglia MAS crewmen).
The RAF flying boat was a Short Sunderland.

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Post by tigre » 22 Aug 2023, 15:21

here we are on 30 september 1940, when the australian destroyer HMAS Stuart hunted the italian submarine Gondar
Thank you very much, fully appreciated :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Re: italian submarines

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Post by tigre » 26 Aug 2023, 16:42

Hello to all :D; the detail that was missing...................................

The end of an Italian submersible.

Source: The Sphere. November 9, 1940.

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Crew members of the smg Gondar swim towards the destroyer HMAS Stuart...................................
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