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Post by Deine-Zukunft » 04 Nov 2005, 00:12

Hello would someone help recognizing this man
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Post by Max Williams » 04 Nov 2005, 00:17

Ritter von Greim.
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Post by Deine-Zukunft » 04 Nov 2005, 00:36

Thank you
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Post by Dieter Zinke » 04 Nov 2005, 00:52

From left:
Wilhelm BERLIN, Robert Ritter von GREIM, Franz Reuss, Job ODEBRECHT, Theodor BUSE; Matthias KLEINHEISTERKAMP

03.03.1945 visiting CI. Armeekorps in Harnekop (in the castle of WW I-Feldmarschall Graf Haeseler)

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Post by Deine-Zukunft » 04 Nov 2005, 00:56

Thanks alot for information Dieter.

Ps:Wasnt his name Theodor Busse instead of Buse
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Post by Michael Miller » 04 Nov 2005, 01:19

Dieter-

Are you certain about that 03.03.1945 date? I don't wish to contradict you, but I thought Hitler was looking a bit more haggard/run-down by March '45. And with his left arm dangling limply at his side.

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Post by Michael Miller » 04 Nov 2005, 01:22

Also, if the man toward the right in leather greatcoat is a Waffen-SS General, I would say he looks more like Heinz Lammerding than Matthias Kleinheisterkamp. But again, I could be wrong.

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 04 Nov 2005, 12:17

Dear Mike,

please have a look in Wilhelm Tieke "Das Ende zwischen Oder und Elbe. Der Kampf um Berlin 1945". Motorbuch-Verlag, Stuttgart, 1981

Freiherr gave the information about Kleinheisterkamp in another thread.

Look also on two other pics with Hitler' s right arm

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Post by Max Williams » 04 Nov 2005, 15:10

Sorry, Dieter, but Mike is right. That is definitely not Kleinheisterkamp. I go with his suggestion of Heinz Lammerding. If it's not him, then it's his twin brother.
It's Hitler's last visit to the (Oder) front on 3 March 1945.
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Post by miocid » 04 Nov 2005, 15:19

He looks Lammerding to me. Do I see a scar on hos left cheek?

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 04 Nov 2005, 15:42

Max & Mike, you are right :D
Also the scar scar on his left cheek. I' m convinced.
Now another (complete !) pic

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Post by HT » 05 Nov 2005, 02:33

Isn't the man behind Busse & Odebrecht is Hermann Fegelein ?
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Post by Max Williams » 05 Nov 2005, 11:02

HT wrote:Isn't the man behind Busse & Odebrecht is Hermann Fegelein ?
No, not him.
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Post by Elwyn W » 05 Nov 2005, 16:08

How about this guy? Looks a little like GenLt Gustav Wilke, 9 FJ Div, part of CI Corp.

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Post by Elwyn W » 05 Nov 2005, 16:12

Oops, not too successful in linking. What I am trying to ask is... the officer immediately behind and partially blocked by Odebrecht in Dieter's Busse, 3.3.45.jpeg... could it be Wilke?

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