French orbat Syria 1941.

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French orbat Syria 1941.

Post by Graeme Sydney » 11 Nov 2005 09:51

Does anyone have any info (other site?) giving the order of battle and/or equipment (TOE) for the french in Syria/Lebenon at the time of the Allied invasion 1941.

Cheers, Graeme.

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Post by Ironmachine » 11 Nov 2005 13:33

Here you have a quite complete oob for the vichy force (and also for the Allies):
http://www.tdg.nu/OOBs/1939-1945/oob_op ... r_1941.htm

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Re: French orbat Syria 1941.

Post by KASHANKA » 22 Mar 2009 19:14

Since the tdg.nu site is down, does anyone have the vichy land forces orbat for Syria 1941?

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Re: French orbat Syria 1941.

Post by Urmel » 22 Mar 2009 19:23

The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

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Re: French orbat Syria 1941.

Post by KASHANKA » 29 Oct 2009 20:51

Ok, found this:

Ordre de bataille au 8 juin 1941 - VICHY
Armée de l'air
Groupes de Chasse
G.C. III/6 Dewoitine 520 : 25 Rayack (Liban)
G.C. I/7 Morane 406 : 12 Alep-Nerab (Syrie) + 6 Estabel (Liban)

Groupes de Bombardement
G.B. I/39 Glenn-Martin 167 F : 10 Rayack (Liban) + 2 Madjaloun (Liban)
E.B. 3/39 Bloch MB 200 : 6 Madjaloun (Liban)

Groupes de Reconnaissance / Observation
G.R. II/39 Potez 63.11 : 12 Damas-Mezzé (Syrie)
G.A.O. 583 Potez 63.11 : 5 Alep-Nerab (Syrie)
E.O. 592 Potez 25TOE : 6 Rayack (Lebanon)
E.O. 593 Potez 25TOE : 6 Alep-Nerab (Syrie)
E.O. 594 Potez 25TOE : 6 Damas-Mezzé (Syrie)
E.O. 595 Potez 25TOE : 6 Palmyre (Syrie)
E.O. 596 Potez 25TOE : 4 Deir ez-Zor (Syrie)

Escadrilles de l'Aéronautique Navale
Esc. 19S Loire 130 : 5 Tripoli (Liban)

Marine
2 DD : Valmy , Guepard ( Beyrout )
3 S/M : Souffleur , ? , ? ( Beyrout )
quelques petits navires ( 1 patrouilleur , 1 corvette ? - A VERIFIER )

Armée de Terre
Infanterie
-6e REI ( Homs ) ( 4bns+3 batteries d'artillerie de la legion )
-24e RMIC(Tripoli )(3bns)
-22e RTA(Liban )(3bns)
-29e RTA(Liban )(3bns)
-16e RTT(Syrie du sud )(3bns)
-17e RTS(Syrie du sud )(3bns)
-1e RTM ( Syrie ) ( uniquement le Ve Bn ))
- 3 Bns de Chasseurs Libanais ( Liban )
- 8 Bns du Levant (Syrie )

Cavalerie
-4e RST (Liban )
-1e RSM (Syrie )
-8e RSA (Liban )
-50 escadrons de cavalerie irreguliere ( druzes , libanais , kurdes etc ) regroupés en 4 groupes d'escadrons de ligne , 6 groupes d'escadrons Druzes et 8 escadrons Circassiens/Tcherkesses ) ( tous en syrie )
-3 Cies meharistes ( Syrie )

Blindés
-6e RCA ( 45 R35 ) 2 esc chars + 2 esc automitrailleuses ( Liban )
-7e RCA ( 45 R35 ) 2 esc chars + 2 esc automitrailleuses ( Syrie )

Artillerie
- RAC Levant ( Liban )
- 1e RAM ( Syrie )
- Groupe d'Alepp ( Syrie )

Ordre de bataille au 8 juin 1941 - Forces Franco-Anglo-Australo-Indiennes

Force "Gent"
Commandant ; General Legentilhomme
Chef d'etat major : lt-Col Koenig
Cie QG50 : Cap Bélan

-1e Bde FFL ( Col cazaud )
1e Bataillon de Légion Etrangère : Commandant Amilakvary
Bataillon de Marche n°1 : Commandant Delange
Bataillon de Marche n°3 : Commandant Garbay

-2e Bde FFL ( Col Génin )
1e Bataillon d'Infanterie de Marine : Commandant de Chevigné
Bataillon de Marche n°2 : Commandant de Roux
Bataillon de Marche n°4 : Commandant Bouillon
1e Bataillon de Fusiliers Marins : Capitaine Corv. Détroyat
1e Batterie Artillerie : Capitaine Laurent-Champrosay
1e Esc. Spahis.Marocains : Capitaine Jourdier
1e Cie de Chars ( et motards ) Capitaine Volvey
Section de Sapeurs-Mineurs : Lieutenant Desmaisons

- Groupe d'escadrons Tcherkesses : Colonel Collet ( 453h)

-1e Cie Transmissions : Capitaine Renard
-101e Cie Auto : Lieutenant Dulau
-Intendance : Intendant Bouton
-Gr. Exploitation : Lieutenant de Guillebon
-Service de Santé : Méd.Cap. Delavenne
-Ambulance chirurgicale : Méd.Cdt Vernier
-Hôpital de campagne : Hadfield-Spears Méd.Cdt Fruchaud

- 5e Bde Indienne ( General Lloyd )
1st Royal Fusiliers

4/6th Rajputana Rifles
3/1st Punjab Rifles
1st Field Regiment, Royal Artillery:
9th Field Battery, Royal Artillery
11th Field Battery, Royal Artillery
171th Light Anti-Aircraft Battery
18th Company, Royal Bombay Sappers and Miners

-2 bns britanniques- A IDENTIFIER
-Un Escadron des Royal Dragoons (en automitrailleuses) .numero non specifié - A IDENTIFIER
-Un Bataillon d'infanterie Australien - A IDENTIFIER , probablement le 2/25
-Une Compagnie lourde de mitrailleuses Australienne -2/3rd Australian Machine-Gun Battalion
-Un Escadron de Scouts Australien (automitrailleuses) -6th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment (light tanks)
-Un groupe d'artillerie Britannique- A IDENTIFIER

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7th Australian Division ( Major-General J D Lavarack)
-25th Australian Infantry Brigade
2/25th Battalion
2/31st Battalion
2/33rd Battalion
-21st Australian Infantry Brigade:
2/14th Battalion
2/16th Battalion
2/27th Battalion
-2/3rd Australian Machine-Gun Battalion ( moins 1 Cie )
-2/2nd Pioneers
-2/4th Australian Field Regiment
-2/5th Australian Field Regiment
-2/6th Australian Field Regiment
-2/2nd Antitank Regiment: 6th AT battery et 7th AT Battery
-170th Light Anti-Aircraft battery
-6th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment (light tanks) ( moins 1 sqd )
-2/5th Field Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-2/6th Field Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-2/5th Field Park Company, Royal Australian Engineers
-9th Australian Divisional Cavalry Regiment .

Forces aeriennes
No. 11 Squadron Blenheim IV
No. 80 Squadron Hurricanes
No. 3 R.A.A.F. Squadron Tomahawks
No. 208 Army Co-operation Sq. Hurricanes
X Flight Gladiators
detachement du 815 Sq., Swordfish
No. 84 Squadron Blenheim

Presents mais non assignés a Exporter
803 Squadron, Fulmars
829 Squadron, Swordfish/Albacore

Forces navales
Force B:
Croiseurs legers Phoebe et Ajax
Destroyers Kandahar , Kimberley , Jackal , Janus

Force C:
Croiseur AA Coventry
Transport d'assaut Glengyle
Destroyers Ilex , Isis , Hotspur , Hero

Source:
http://deuxiemeguerremondia.forumactif. ... r-t824.htm

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Post by Peter H » 28 Jan 2011 22:36

From Time-Life.

Beirut 1940
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Post by Peter H » 28 Jan 2011 22:38

Same source.

FFL Marines,July 1941
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Re: French orbat Syria 1941.

Post by Hautpoul » 29 Jan 2011 12:17

In June 1941, 3 french submarines of the 9e DSM (Submarine Division) were based in Syria : Caiman, Souffleur and Marsouin.
The 9, Caiman was seriously grenaded. At 12:48 pm, Souffleur was detected on surface (charging batteries) and sinked by HMS Parthian with 4 torpedoes.

Here’s a picture of the poor Souffleur.

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Re: French orbat Syria 1941.

Post by Loïc » 29 Jan 2011 13:13

hello,
about the 5 men with a coastal artillery fixed gun we can recognize that they belong to the Navy, they are sailors, not Marines :wink:

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