Postwar relationship between Vietnam & China

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Postwar relationship between Vietnam & China

Post by lei_lord_demon » 18 Oct 2005 12:15

[Split from "Borderwar Vietnam - China(1979-1989)!"]


The border-war ended in 1987!But the conflict is contiuos...to now!
Yesterday,My friend (he is a young-officer in PVA-border soldiers-1982 born) talk with me about these conflict! Vietnam-China border is never became peace-border!
Now i'm a lastyear student!next year if i haven't got a job 8) i'll join army!Maybe....garrison in the border!
Just kidding! :lol:

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Post by Chinese-Empire » 19 Oct 2005 05:36

lei_lord_demon wrote:The border-war ended in 1987!But the conflict is contiuos...to now!
Yesterday,My friend (he is a young-officer in PVA-border soldiers-1982 born) talk with me about these conflict! Vietnam-China border is never became peace-border!
Now i'm a lastyear student!next year if i haven't got a job 8) i'll join army!Maybe....garrison in the border!
Just kidding! :lol:
China never take vietnam too seriously... you are over-estimating yourself too much...
BTW, can you give me some vietnam military forum or teach me how to use the link you have given me previously? full of vietnamese words, i can't read and i can't find forum as well...

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Post by lei_lord_demon » 23 Oct 2005 11:41

Chinese-Empire wrote:
China never take vietnam too seriously... you are over-estimating yourself too much...
BTW, can you give me some vietnam military forum or teach me how to use the link you have given me previously? full of vietnamese words, i can't read and i can't find forum as well...
Have you ever came to border?
I haven't ever knew any "vietnam military forum not use vietnamese "! So sorry!

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Post by Acolyte » 24 Nov 2005 04:03

Two quick questions:

1. Where exactly is Mountain Laoshan? I cannot find it on the map. What I find confusing is that there is a mountain called Laoshan in Eastern China as well, in Shandong province.

2. Did this mountain become Chinese or Vietnamese territory after the war?

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Post by Chinese-Empire » 27 Nov 2005 07:27

Acolyte wrote:Two quick questions:

1. Where exactly is Mountain Laoshan? I cannot find it on the map. What I find confusing is that there is a mountain called Laoshan in Eastern China as well, in Shandong province.

2. Did this mountain become Chinese or Vietnamese territory after the war?
1. Their pronunciation is same but they are two complitely different places. The Laoshan in Eastern China is [崂山]. It's a very famous moutain and tourists visit there. But the Laoshan near the Sino-Vietnam border is [老山] means "Old mountain." it's a hell, coz its full of mines. No one will ever go there except military forces.

2.Of course Laoshan The "Old moutain" is belong to China. Laoshan[老山] is Chinese place name. If Laoshan is belong to Vietnam, it won't be called as Laoshan anymore. it would have been given Vietnamese name like hanoi mountain or ho chi min mountain... Vietnamese don not know what "laoshan" means.




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take note on the four big chinese words. 老山主峰 which means peak of laoshan.

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A Chinese soldier sticked in the Chinese flag on the peak of Laoshan before he'd been shot by vietnamese army.

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Post by Acolyte » 28 Nov 2005 14:39

Thanks for the info!

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Post by lei_lord_demon » 29 Nov 2005 13:49

Wrong way!"lao shan" in Chinese - "lão sơn" in vnmese - "old mountain" in English is name Sino call many Highround - ViXuyen district, Ha giang province of Vietnam (near Yunnan province-China).These are 1509 - 1200 -1100.....5 HG i not remember!
in 1984 PLA take control laoshan, 1984-1987 PVA retake HG except 1509HG.
PLA withdraw 1509 in 1991. Now Laoshan is in Vietnam territory.

Vietnamese don not know what "laoshan" means. Funny! VNmese in mixed of Han-Chinese and Viet-Nom word! This mean VNmese can know Hanword.Uncle Hồ - "Hồ Chí Minh" is 100% han-type name!"Trường Sơn" mountain in VNmese in "Chiangshan" in China!....

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Post by Chinese-Empire » 30 Nov 2005 02:50

lei_lord_demon wrote:Wrong way!"lao shan" in Chinese - "lão sơn" in vnmese - "old mountain" in English is name Sino call many Highround - ViXuyen district, Ha giang province of Vietnam (near Yunnan province-China).These are 1509 - 1200 -1100.....5 HG i not remember!
in 1984 PLA take control laoshan, 1984-1987 PVA retake HG except 1509HG.
PLA withdraw 1509 in 1991. Now Laoshan is in Vietnam territory.

Vietnamese don not know what "laoshan" means. Funny! VNmese in mixed of Han-Chinese and Viet-Nom word! This mean VNmese can know Hanword.Uncle Hồ - "Hồ Chí Minh" is 100% han-type name!"Trường Sơn" mountain in VNmese in "Chiangshan" in China!....
1509HG is Laoshan. do you know?

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Post by lei_lord_demon » 30 Nov 2005 11:02

Chinese-Empire wrote:
lei_lord_demon wrote:Wrong way!"lao shan" in Chinese - "lão sơn" in vnmese - "old mountain" in English is name Sino call many Highround - ViXuyen district, Ha giang province of Vietnam (near Yunnan province-China).These are 1509 - 1200 -1100.....5 HG i not remember!
in 1984 PLA take control laoshan, 1984-1987 PVA retake HG except 1509HG.
PLA withdraw 1509 in 1991. Now Laoshan is in Vietnam territory.

Vietnamese don not know what "laoshan" means. Funny! VNmese in mixed of Han-Chinese and Viet-Nom word! This mean VNmese can know Hanword.Uncle Hồ - "Hồ Chí Minh" is 100% han-type name!"Trường Sơn" mountain in VNmese in "Chiangshan" in China!....
1509HG is Laoshan. do you know?
1509HG is VN name of a HG in these!In China name is.....see here
http://china-defense.com/history/laoshan/laoshan_1.html

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Post by lei_lord_demon » 06 Dec 2005 03:58

"Friendship Gate" China-Vietnam border 2005!Old name "Observer South Gate", made by Qing Emperor!

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Post by lei_lord_demon » 06 Dec 2005 04:10

Opening port. View from China side 2005!

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Post by lei_lord_demon » 06 Dec 2005 04:36

View from Vietnam side!
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Lest check in this link, you can see the "friendship bridge"!
http://bbs.zhinet.com/uploadfile/2004-1 ... 123563.jpg

Dear Marcus! Can you check this topic and remove photos show the corpses! Same with my topic! OK?
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 97&start=0

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Post by Chinese-Empire » 06 Dec 2005 04:47

[德天瀑布] THE Detian waterfall in the border region

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The Waterfall in left side is Vietnam and the bigger one in the right side is China

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Left Vietnam<--------------------- ||------------------------->Right China

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Chinese side

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Vietnamese side




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Daxin County is under the jurisdiction of Nanning City, Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, and shares over 40 kilometers of its southern border with Vietnam. Formerly an undeveloped area, it is famous for its Detian Scenic Zone, which boasts a variety of fantastic landscapes.

Along with the enhancement of friendly ties between China and Vietnam, the Detian Scenic Zone was established several years ago, and was so named for its spectacular Detian Waterfall.

The Detian Waterfall is over 200 meters wide and has a drop of more than 70 meters. Its water rushes down a three-tiered cliff with tremendous force. It is the largest waterfall in Asia, and the second largest transnational waterfall in the world, connecting with a waterfall in Vietnam. The fall is awe-inspiring, and its thunder is audible before it even comes into view.

The changing seasons transform the natural scenery of the waterfall throughout the year. In spring, the flame-red blossoms of the kapok trees that surround the fall are in full bloom, symbolizing success. Throughout the autumn months, though, the area around the waterfall turns golden-yellow, creating a harvest scene. In the summer, visitors feel a complete freedom of mind and ease of spirit as they see the waters of the fall cascade with the momentum force of an avalanche. During winter, on the other hand, the fall's clear water drops slowly, making visitors feel even-tempered and good-humored. The Detian Waterfall appears to be a sculpture made by nature.

Fifty-three kilometers away from the county seat of Daxin is the Mingshi Tourist Attraction, a state-level scenic spot known as the Lesser Guilin. The Mingshi River winds its way through green hills and flat land, and its banks are dotted with groves of bamboo. The tranquil waters of the river, along with the green hills, terraced fields, and farmers' houses around the Mingshi Bridge, form a beautiful countryside scene.

The Heishui (Black Water) River Tourist Attraction is another state-level scenic spot that is 33 kilometers away from the county seat of Daxin. It is located in a 45.5-kilometer section of the river between Shatundie Waterfall in Shuolong Township and the Leipingnaan Hydropower Station. By the river, there are a number of trees and odd-shaped pinnacles, whose inverted reflection in the river's blue water is the color black, hence the name of the river. With pinnacles, groves of bamboo and longan trees, and farmers' houses, this section of the river looks like an elegant Chinese ink and wash painting throughout the seasons.

Shatundie Waterfall, also known as Niandi Waterfall, is 55 kilometers away from the county seat of Daxin. The fall has seven tiers; and if you view it from afar, it looks like a flight of steps made of water. Compared with the Detian Waterfall, it is moderate and calm.

Visitors from other parts of the country can travel by air, train, or long-distance bus to Nanning, the capital city of the Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region. From Nanning, they can take scheduled buses, dispatched every 20 minutes, to the county seat of Daxin. There are tourist buses to every scenic spot in the county.


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Post by lei_lord_demon » 06 Dec 2005 05:06

Old Vietnamese border soldiers and Young Chinese border soldier!
Happy face????I think they are playing basket ball!
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