Panzer IV with 8,8CM FlaK ?

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Darek Piotrowski
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Panzer IV with 8,8CM FlaK ?

Post by Darek Piotrowski » 14 Dec 2005 11:43

Did exist the vehicle which you can see in a photo ? Whether it can only underbody "Panzer IV" and being behind it canon "8.8 cm "? Perhaps exist some different photographs of this vehicle ?
http://www.odkrywca-online.com/picsforu ... h_88mm.jpg

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Post by Kurz Patrone » 14 Dec 2005 14:24

Indeed those are the remains of a Panzer IV but the flak is behind it not on it
is just the angle of the picture makes it look like is on top of it.
Mauro.

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Post by Christian W. » 14 Dec 2005 14:32

flak is behind it not on it
And you know this how?

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Post by AlteHase » 14 Dec 2005 15:18


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Post by ekke » 14 Dec 2005 16:13

Kurz Patrone wrote:Indeed those are the remains of a Panzer IV but the flak is behind it not on it
is just the angle of the picture makes it look like is on top of it.
Mauro.
I agree, the person seems too small to be on the tank.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne » 14 Dec 2005 16:21

Christian
Look at the shadows.

AlteHase
No, look at the road wheels.

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Post by Tom Houlihan » 14 Dec 2005 16:27

I have seen photos, in Chamberlain's Encyclopedia I believe, of a modified PzIV chassis (elongated) with an 88 FlaK on it. I can't recall the specifications on it, though.

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Post by Grzesio » 14 Dec 2005 17:04

Tom Houlihan wrote:I have seen photos, in Chamberlain's Encyclopedia I believe, of a modified PzIV chassis (elongated) with an 88 FlaK on it. I can't recall the specifications on it, though.
Which edition?!

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Post by Sander D » 14 Dec 2005 19:41

Hi all,

Here is a other picture of a panzer IV with a 8,8cm flak 36 mounted on it ,the vehicle is not the same as posted by Darek.
This vehicle was found in Czechoslovakai may 1944.

The link below shows a picture of this vehicle :

http://www.concord-publications.com/7022/7022-72.jpg

The picture can be found in :

German Self-Propelled Guns: Self-propelled artillery, anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns from Concord Publications
The link:

http://www.concord-publications.com/7022/7022.htm

Cheers

Sander

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Post by Phil Bishop » 17 Dec 2005 22:17

Interesting pictures, and certainly a PZ 1V chassis. Could be a field modification or a test vehicle. The vehicle in Encyclopedia of German Tanks (3 prototypes) is the 88mm Flak auf Sonderfahrgestell.

This was a Flak 37 or a Flak 41 mounted on a revised Pz 1V chassis with adapted interleaved suspension and a revised nose. Deffinatly not what is show in the pictures. Thanks for posting.

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