Panzer IV with 8,8CM FlaK ?

Darek Piotrowski · Post by **Darek Piotrowski** » 14 Dec 2005 11:43

Did exist the vehicle which you can see in a photo ? Whether it can only underbody "Panzer IV" and being behind it canon "8.8 cm "? Perhaps exist some different photographs of this vehicle ?
http://www.odkrywca-online.com/picsforu ... h_88mm.jpg

Kurz Patrone · Post by **Kurz Patrone** » 14 Dec 2005 14:24

Indeed those are the remains of a Panzer IV but the flak is behind it not on it
is just the angle of the picture makes it look like is on top of it.
Mauro.

Christian W. · Post by **Christian W.** » 14 Dec 2005 14:32

flak is behind it not on it

And you know this how?

AlteHase · Post by **AlteHase** » 14 Dec 2005 15:18

It could be Grille 10

http://pedg.org/panzer/public/website/pz13.htm#grille

ekke · Post by **ekke** » 14 Dec 2005 16:13

Kurz Patrone wrote:Indeed those are the remains of a Panzer IV but the flak is behind it not on it
is just the angle of the picture makes it look like is on top of it.
Mauro.

I agree, the person seems too small to be on the tank.

Christian Ankerstjerne · Post by **Christian Ankerstjerne** » 14 Dec 2005 16:21

Christian
Look at the shadows.

AlteHase
No, look at the road wheels.

Tom Houlihan · Post by **Tom Houlihan** » 14 Dec 2005 16:27

I have seen photos, in Chamberlain's Encyclopedia I believe, of a modified PzIV chassis (elongated) with an 88 FlaK on it. I can't recall the specifications on it, though.

Grzesio · Post by **Grzesio** » 14 Dec 2005 17:04

Tom Houlihan wrote:I have seen photos, in Chamberlain's Encyclopedia I believe, of a modified PzIV chassis (elongated) with an 88 FlaK on it. I can't recall the specifications on it, though.

Which edition?!

Regards

Grzesio

Sander D · Post by **Sander D** » 14 Dec 2005 19:41

Hi all,

Here is a other picture of a panzer IV with a 8,8cm flak 36 mounted on it ,the vehicle is not the same as posted by Darek.
This vehicle was found in Czechoslovakai may 1944.

The link below shows a picture of this vehicle :

http://www.concord-publications.com/7022/7022-72.jpg

The picture can be found in :

German Self-Propelled Guns: Self-propelled artillery, anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns from Concord Publications
The link:

http://www.concord-publications.com/7022/7022.htm

Cheers

Sander

Phil Bishop · Post by **Phil Bishop** » 17 Dec 2005 22:17

Interesting pictures, and certainly a PZ 1V chassis. Could be a field modification or a test vehicle. The vehicle in Encyclopedia of German Tanks (3 prototypes) is the 88mm Flak auf Sonderfahrgestell.

This was a Flak 37 or a Flak 41 mounted on a revised Pz 1V chassis with adapted interleaved suspension and a revised nose. Deffinatly not what is show in the pictures. Thanks for posting.