Hermann Goring Division and 44 Dot ????

oblt muller · Post by **oblt muller** » 03 Jan 2006 14:43

Hi there, i wonder if anyone could help.

I have read on a number of occasions that some Units of the Hermann Goring Division where issued with 44 dot camo?

Does anyone have any good source material on this, or is it another story invented by re-enactors?

Any photos you could post would be very helpful.

Many thanks

Dan.

Steiner · Post by **Steiner** » 06 Jan 2006 10:38

Never heard of it.

It's correct however that they used SS-smocks

PzAufklAbt HG · Post by **PzAufklAbt HG** » 13 Feb 2006 12:08

Not impossible, but fairly unlikely they wore the 44 dot. Some units of the HG Division were issued WSS camo smocks and helmet covers (predominantly in Plane Tree and Oakleaf patterns), but that was around 1942 and many of those were traded in for standard Luftwaffe ground smocks later. Also in Sicily and Italy, the HG were known to wear whatever they could "liberate" from stores and captured supplies, like Italian camouflage items. It's possible that some HG troops picked up a few 44 dot camo items in the redeployment from Italy to the Eastern Front, but I've never seen any photos to support it.

Some good references on the HG Division:

- Kurowski, Franz: "The History of the Fallschirm Panzerkorps Hermann Göring" ISBN 0-921991-25-8
- Otte, Alfred: "The HG Panzer Division" ISBN 0-88740-206-2
- Bender, Roger James et al: "Hermann Göring: From Regiment to Fallschirmpanzerkorps" ISBN 0-88740-473-1

The third title (by Bender) is probably the best of the three for researching stuff like uniforms and insignia.

PAA HG

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 02 Mar 2006 11:23

Hello friends!!

Very Interesting... dot 44 camo. in HG.

NOT MEMORY THE SOURCE..sorry

Photo of HG soldiers in Italy with Italian camo ( modello 1929).

Note: a captured Italian rifle " Moschetto Mod.91/38" of the second man from the right.

Fallschirmjäger · Post by **Fallschirmjäger** » 03 Mar 2006 06:18

Thats a new one to me,but then i havent seen heaps and heaps of herman goring soldier pictures,where allowed to copy these for private use?.

oblt muller · Post by **oblt muller** » 03 Mar 2006 10:37

great photo, do you have anymore?

Did the HG wear almost everything in the germany army wardrobe?

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 03 Mar 2006 14:58

Hello!!

An other photo..but not sure 100% HG soldiers

From ebay old auction

oblt muller · Post by **oblt muller** » 03 Mar 2006 16:09

wow....

great photo, they look HG to me or at least luftwaffe FJ? with helmet nets, splinter jackets side arms etc etc....

cool

dan

FRANCY RITTER · Post by **FRANCY RITTER** » 03 Mar 2006 18:37

Thanks Dan..

See this interesting site..

Luftwaffe Field Divisions

Note the Panzermann in the center with Hermann Göring Division cuff-title

Fallschirmjäger · Post by **Fallschirmjäger** » 03 Mar 2006 22:00

Thanks for the pictures again francy,that one with the knocked out shermans looks like luftwaffe field troopers,if not then HG soldiers,but not fallschirmjäger as dont have the smocks and para helmets.And that luffwaffe field site,i have to in my favourites lists.

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