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Chinese map of the Hsuchou campaign

Post by asiaticus » 03 Mar 2006 23:55

Here is a Chinese map of the Hsuchou campaign. It shows the movements of the Chinese forces as well.
Needs some tranlation but shows both sides activity.
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Japanese OOB in the Battle of Hsuchou

Post by Akira Takizawa » 04 Mar 2006 07:59

North-China Expeditionary Army (General Terauchi)
.. 1st Army (Major Gen. Kozuki) - 14th Division*
.. 2nd Army (Major Gen. Nishio) - 5th, 10th, 16th, 114th Divisions

Central-China Expeditionary Army (General Hata) - 3rd, 9th, 13th Divisions

* Other divisions of 1st Army did not participate in the Battle of Hsuchou.


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Chinese oob Hsuchow Campaign (Late Dec. 1937- late May 1938)

Post by asiaticus » 04 Mar 2006 09:53

The Japanese campaign attacked two Chinese War areas, the 5th in the Lunghai Corridor and the 1st in the north along the Yellow River.


China [1]

5th War Area - Li Tsung-jen
- 2nd Army Group - Sun Lien-chung [From 1st War area March 1938]
-- 30th Corps - Tien Chen-nan
--- 30th Divison - Chang Cing-chao
--- 31st Divison - Chih Feng-cheng
-- 42nd Corps - Feng An-pang
--- 27th Division - Huang Chiao-sung[r]
--- 44th Division - Wu Peng-chu
- 3rd Army Group - Sun Tung-hsuen (acting
-- 12th Corps - Sun Tung-hsuen
--- 20th Division - Sun Tung-hsuen
--- 81st Division - Chan Shu-tang
-- 55th Corps - Tsao Fu-lin
--- 29th Division - Tsao Fu-lin (concurrent)
--- 74th Division - Li Han-chang
-- 56th Corps - Ku Liang-min
--- 22nd Division - Ku Liang-min (concurrent)
--- Pistol Brigade - Wu Hua-wen
- 11th Army Group - Li Pin-hsien
-- 31st Corps - Wei Yung San
--- 131st Division - Chin Lien-fang
--- 135th Division - Su Tzu-hsing
--- 138th Division - Mo Teh-hung
- 21st Army Group - Liao Lei
-- 7th Corps - Chou Tsu-huang
--- 170th Division - Hsu Chi-ming
--- 171st Division - Yang Fu-chang
--- 172nd Division - Cheng Shu-feng
-- 48th Corps - Liao Lei (concurrent)
--- 174th Division - Wang Tsan-pin
--- 176th Division - Ou Shou-nien
- 22nd Army Group - Teng His-hou, (Sun Cheng - acting) [from Szechuan]
-- 41st Corps - Sun Cheng
--- 122nd Division - Wang Min-chang
--- 124th Division - Wang Shih-chun
-- 45th Corps - Chen Ting-hsun
--- 125th Division - Chen Ting-hsun (concurrent)
--- 127th Division - Chen Li
--366 Division? [6] (peace preservation units?)
--372 Division? [6] (peace preservation units?)
- 24th Army Group - Han The-chin (acting)
-- 57th Corps - Miao Chen-liu
--- 111th Division - Chang En-tuo
--- 112nd Division - Hou Shou-yi
-- 89th Corps - Han Teh-chin (concurrent)
--- 33rd Division - Han Teh-chin (concurrent)
--- 117th Division - Li Shou-wei[6]
--- attached Kiangsu Peace Preservation Units
- 26th Army Group - Hsu Yuan-chuan(concurrent)
-- 10th Corps - Hsu Yuan-chuan(concurrent)
--- 41st Divisiion - Ting Chih-pan
--- 48th Division - Hsu Chi-wu
-- 199th Division - Lo Shu-chia
- 27th Army Group - Yang Sen
-- 20th Corps - Yang Sen (concurrent)
--- 133rd Division - Yang Han-yu
--- 134th Division - Yang Han-chung
- 3rd Army - Pang Pin-hsun
-- 40th Corps - Pang Pin-hsun(concurrent)
--- 39th Division - Ma Fa-wu
- 19th Army - Feng Chi-an
-- 77th Corps - Feng Chi-an(concurrent)
--- 37th Division - Chia Chien-his
--- 179th Division - Ho Chi-feng
--- 132nd Division - Wang Chang-hai
- 20th Army - Tang En-po
-- 52nd Corps - Kuan Lin-cheng
--- 2nd Division - Cheng Tung-kuo[r]
--- 25th Division - Chang Yao-ming[r]
-- 85th Corps - Wang Chung-lien
--- 4th Division - Chen Ta-ching[r]
--- 89th Division - Division - Hsueh-chung[r]
-- 110th Division - Chang Chen
- 27th Army - Chang Tse-chung
-- 59th Corps - Chang Tse-chung (concurrent) [From 1st War area Jan. 1938]
--- 38th Division - Huang Wei-kang
--- 180th Division - Liu Chen-san
--- 9th Division - Chang Teh-shun [g] Must be a different Division, the 9th is below with 2nd Corps.
--- 13th Cav. Brigade - Yao Ching-chuan
- 2nd Corps - Li Yen-nien
-- 3rd Division - Li Yu-tang [g]
-- 9th Division - Li Yen-nien(concurrent) [g]
- 22nd Corps - Tan Tao-yuan
-- 50th Division - Chen Kuang-yu
- 46th Corps - Fan Sung-pu
-- 28th Division - Tung Chao
-- 49th Division - Chou Shih-mein
-- 92nd Division - Huang Kuo-liang
- 51st Corps - Yu Hsueh-chung
-- 113th Division - Chao Kuang-lieh
-- 114th Division - Mu Chung-heng
- 60th Corps - Lu Han
-- 182nd Division - An En-fu **
-- 183rd Division - Kao Kyin-huai **
-- 184th Division - Chang Chung **
- 68th Corps - Liu Ju-ming
-- 119th Division - Li Chin-tien
-- 143rd Division - Li Tseng-chih
- 69th Corps - Shih Yu-san
-- 181st Division - Shih Yu-san(concurrent)
-- New 6th Division - Kao Shu-hsun
- 75th Corps - Shih Yu-san
-- 6th Division - Shih Yu-san(concurrent) [g]
-- 93rd Division - Kan Li-chu
- 92nd Corps - Li Hsien-chou
-- 13th Division - Wu Liang-shen
-- 21st Division - Li Hsien-chou(concurrent)
- 95th Divison - Lo Chi
- 104th Division - Wang Wen-yen
-115 Division? [6]
- 1sth Regt. 1st Arty. Bde.
- 4th, 5th ,6th and 7th Art. Regt.

Airforce - ?
Squadrons ? Aircraft types and numbers?



1st War Area - Cheng Chien (Feb. 1938)
- Eastern Honan Army - Hsueh Yueh
-- 64th Corps - Li Han-huen
--- 155th Division - Chen Kung-hsin
--- 187th Division - Peng Ling-cheng
-- 74th Corps - Wang Yao-wu
--- 51st Division - Wang Yao-wu
--- 58th Division - Po Hui-chang
-- 8th Corps - Huang Chieh
--- 40th Division - Lo Li-jung
--- 102nd Division - Po Hui-chang
- 27th Corps - Kuei Yung-ching
--- 36th Division [g] - Chiang Fu-sheng
--- 46th Divison - Li Liang-yung
- 17th Army - Hu Tsung-nan
-- 1st Corps - Li Tieh-chun
--- 1st Division - Li Tieh-chun
--- 78th Division - Li Wen
- 3rd Army Group - Sun Tung-hsuan
-- 12th Corps - Sun Tung-hsuan
--- 20th Division - Chang Tse-ming
--- 22nd Division - Ku Liang-min
--- 81st Division - Chan Shu-tang
-- 55th Corps - Tsao Fu-lin
--- 29th Division - Tsao Fu-lin
--- 74th Division - Li Han-chang
- 20th Army - Shang Chen
-- 32nd Corps - Shang Chen
--- 139th Division - Li Chao-ying
--- 141st Division - Sung Ken-tang
--- 142nd Division - Lu Chi
--- Salt Gabelle Brigade - Chian Chi-ke
--- 23rd Division - Li Pi-fan
- 71st Corps - Sung Hsi-lien
--- 87th Division [g] - Shen Fa-tsao
--- 88th Division [g] - Fung Mu-han
- 39th Corps - Liu Ho-ting
--- 34th Division - Kung Ping-fan
--- 56th Division - Liu Shang-chih
- 1st Army Group - Sung Che-yuan
-- 77th Corps - Feng Chih-an
--- 37th Division - Chang Ling-yun
--- 132nd Division - Wang Chang-hai
--- 179th Division - Ho Chi-feng
-- 69th Corps - Shih Yu-san
--- 181st Division - Shih Yu-san
--- New 9th Division - Kao Shu-hsun
-- 53rd Corps - Wan Fu-lin
--- 116th Division - Chao Fu-cheng
--- 130th Division - Chu Hung-hsun
- 91st Corps - Kao Tse-chu
--- 166th Divison - Ma Li-wu
--- 45th Division - Liu Chin
- 90th Corps - Peng Chin-chih
--- 195th Division - Liang Kai
--- 196th Division - Liu Chao-huan
- New 8th Division - Chiang Tsai-chen
- 95th Division - Lo Chi
- 91st Division - Feng Chan-tsai
- New 35th Division - Wang Ching-tsai
- 61st Division - Chung Sung
- 106th Division - Shen Ke
- 109th Division - Li Shu-sen
- 94th Division - Chu Huai-ping
- 24th Division - Lin Ying
- 9th Reserve Division - Chang Yen-chuan
- 8th Reserve Division - Ling Chao-yao
- 28th Seperate Brigade - Wu Hua-wen
- Hopei Militia - Chang Yin-wu
- Hopei Chahar Guerilla Commander - Sun Tien-ying
- 3rd Cavarly Corps - Cheng Ta-chang
-- 4th Cavarly Divison - Chang The-shun
-- 9th Cavarly Divison - Wang Chi-feng
- 14th Seperate Cavalry Brigade - Chang Chan-kuei
- 2nd Brigade, New 1st Cavalry Division - Ma Lu
- 13th Cavalry Brigade - Yao Ching-chuan
- 6th Artillery Brigade - Huang Yung-an
- 10th Seperate Artillery Brigade - Peng Meng-chi
- 5th Regiment, 1st Arty Brigade - Li Kang-yen
- 7th Seperate Artillery Regiment - Chang Kuang-hou
- 9th Seperate Artillery Regiment - Kuang Yu-ai

Airforce - ?
Squadrons ? Aircraft types and numbers?

Notes:
[g] German trained Divisions:
3rd, 6th, 9th, 14th, 36th, 87th, 88th, and the Training Division of the Central Military Academy. Also the "Tax Police" regiment (equivalent of a division) under T.V. Soong's Ministry of Finance, later converted to the New 38th Division during the war.

[r]12 other Divisions on the reorganized model with 2 German advisors:
2nd, 4th, 10th, 11th, 25th, 27th, 57th, 67th, 80th, 83rd, 89th Division

From: "History of the Frontal (i.e. KMT) War Zone in the Sino-Japanese War", published by Nanjing University Press. Posted by yexu on Apr 7 2005, 04:28 AM - http://www.china-defense.com/forum/inde ... ntry176135

** Divisions with French arms from Yunnan

Sources:
[1] Hsu Long-hsuen and Chang Ming-kai, History of The Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) 2nd Ed. ,1971. Translated by Wen Ha-hsiung , Chung Wu Publishing; 33, 140th Lane, Tung-hwa Street, Taipei, Taiwan Republic of China.

[6] Units found on map of battle of Taierzhang: (http://www.xinjunshi.com/ziliao/junshid ... /1257.html

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About the Japanese map

Post by asiaticus » 05 Mar 2006 05:48

About the Japanese map, are those two independant Brigades there?

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Re: About the Japanese map

Post by Akira Takizawa » 05 Mar 2006 06:56

asiaticus wrote:About the Japanese map, are those two independant Brigades there?


They are 3rd Infantry Brigade from 2nd Division and 13th Infantry Brigade from 7th Division. They were under the direct control of North-China Expeditionary Army.

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iB means Infantry Brigade in the IJA.

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Re: About the Japanese map

Post by asiaticus » 05 Mar 2006 10:05

Interesting, neither of my other sources mentions them at all. The Chinese history mentions other brigades though, but I dont have a lot of confidence in it.

Do you have any idea who commanded them?

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Re: About the Japanese map

Post by Akira Takizawa » 05 Mar 2006 16:53

asiaticus wrote:Do you have any idea who commanded them?


3rd Infantry Brigade - Major Gen. Kazuo Isa
13th Infantry Brigade - Major Gen. Tadao Yoshizawa

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Brigades in the Hsuchow campaign

Post by asiaticus » 06 Mar 2006 02:35

Interesting, Major Gen. Tadao Yoshizawa was also in command of the Brigade during the Nomohan Incident in 1939.

These Brigades are from divisions ordinarily detailed to the Kwangtung Army. I understood the 7th Division to be the Kwangtung Army mobile reserve Division. I beleive the 2nd was also one of their better Divisons and sent a Brigade to the Nomanhan Incident late in the campaign but not this one.

I did not know the Kwangtung Army was still sending troops to China at this date. I would guess this would have been to support the Hsuchow offensive?

Where there any other such assignments of brigades in the IJA army in this campaign?

From this:
IJA in China orbat, 1937 to 1945
http://www.china-defense.com/forum/inde ... topic=2726

the North China Army had the China Stationed Infantry Brigade, and the 3rd 4th and 5th Independent Mixed Brigades. My understanding is that the China Stationed Infantry Brigade and 5th Independent Mixed Brigades were with 2nd Army, while the 3rd and 4th Independent Mixed Brigadeswere with 1st Army.


Hsu Long-hsuen's History of The Sino-Japanese War claims several brigades in the Japanese oob not listed above. This is one oob list that seems quite a bit out of kilter. I am wondering if any of these were right at all.

With the North China Army, 1st or 2nd Army:

-105th Brigade/113th Div. - Shozo Motogawa
-compositiion?

- A brigade of 111th Div. - Yamamoto
-compositiion?

- 121st Brigade / 105th Divison - Lt. Gen. Itada
-compositiion?

- Bulk of Yamashita Army? - commander?
-compositiion?

- a portion of Sakai Army? - commander?
- Senda Unit - ?

- a portion of 120th Divison - commander?
-compositiion?

For Central China Expeditionary Force:

- A portion of 11th division - commander?
10th Infantry Brigade/ llth Division [4]
- 12th Infantry Regiment
- 22nd Infantry Regiment

- 111th Brigade, 106th Divison - Yanagawa

- a portion of 101st Division - Keinosuke Inutsuka

- a portion of 116th Division - Sato
116th Division [4]

- Konoye Division - Teiko Itado


My other source below doesn't mention any of these except the ones marked [4]:

IJA in China orbat, 1937 to 1945
http://www.china-defense.com/forum/inde ... topic=2726

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Re: Brigades in the Hsuchow campaign

Post by Akira Takizawa » 06 Mar 2006 05:29

> I did not know the Kwangtung Army was still sending troops to China at this date. I would guess this would have been to support the Hsuchow offensive?

Yes. They returned to the Kwangtung Army after the battle.

> Where there any other such assignments of brigades in the IJA army in this campaign?

Sato Detachment (101st Infantry Brigade/101st Division)
Sakai Detachment (11th Infantry Brigade/6th Division)

They were both under the Central-China Expeditionary Army. But, both did not directly participate in the battle of Hsuchou. They were in charge of flank offensive.

> the North China Army had the China Stationed Infantry Brigade, and the 3rd 4th and 5th Independent Mixed Brigades. My understanding is that the China Stationed Infantry Brigade and 5th Independent Mixed Brigades were with 2nd Army, while the 3rd and 4th Independent Mixed Brigadeswere with 1st Army.

China Stationed Brigade was under the direct control of the North China Expeditonary Army. Others are correct.

> Hsu Long-hsuen's History of The Sino-Japanese War claims several brigades in the Japanese oob not listed above. This is one oob list that seems quite a bit out of kilter. I am wondering if any of these were right at all.

116th Division (Lt. Gen. Shimizu) was assigned to the Central China Expeditionary Army. But, it was after the battle of Hsuchou. Other units are mistakes.


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Re: Brigades in the Hsuchow campaign

Post by asiaticus » 06 Mar 2006 05:37

Thanks for the clarification.

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Hsuchow campaign map

Post by asiaticus » 13 Mar 2006 05:31

Hsuchow campaign map from Hsu Long-hsuen and Chang Ming-kai, History of The Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) 2nd Ed. ,1971. Translated by Wen Ha-hsiung , Chung Wu Publishing; 33, 140th Lane, Tung-hwa Street, Taipei, Taiwan Republic of China.


This shows actions over time, although just who is doing what is very vague and has to be followed in the text of the book.
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Tank Regiments use in The Battle of Hsuchou

Post by asiaticus » 13 Mar 2006 10:21

from http://www3.plala.or.jp/takihome/

The Battle of Hsuchou
Date : May, 1938
Place : Hsuchou, China
Opponent : Chinese Army

Tank Unit
Commander
Tanks

1st Tank Battalion
Colonel Iwanaka
24 Type 89 Medium Tanks, 8 Type 94 Tankettes

2nd Tank Battalion
Colonel Imada
36 Type 89 Medium Tanks

5th Tank Battalion
Colonel Hosomi
32 Type 89 Medium Tanks, 15 Type 94 Tankettes



"The 1st and 2nd Tank Battalions were ordered to advance to the westen flank of Hsuchou and to prevent the Chinese forces from withdrawing westward.

Which units where these two units with.? It looks like they could be with 10th or 16th Divisons or won of the two Infantry Brigades from the Kwangtung Army.


" The 5th Tank Battalion was used to support the infantry division."

Which one the 13th or the 9th Division?

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Re: Tank Regiments use in The Battle of Hsuchou

Post by Akira Takizawa » 13 Mar 2006 13:45

> Which units where these two units with.?

They were not attached to division or other unit. Mechanized task forces which consisted of tank battalion and some support units were organized and they rushed on the flank of the Chinese forces. The task force of 1st Tank Battalion went up from south and that of 2nd Tank Battalion went down from north.

> " The 5th Tank Battalion was used to support the infantry division."
> Which one the 13th or the 9th Division?

3rd Division


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Re: Tank BattalionMechanized task forces

Post by asiaticus » 13 Mar 2006 19:53

> Which units where these two units with.?

They were not attached to division or other unit. Mechanized task forces which consisted of tank battalion and some support units were organized and they rushed on the flank of the Chinese forces. The task force of 1st Tank Battalion went up from south and that of 2nd Tank Battalion went down from north.


Thanks for the clarification. I thought the 1st Battalion was still in the North China front.

So 1st Battalion was with the Central China Expeditionary Army at this time? Were they then on the far Western flank of the 13th Division sweep north to the west of Hsuchou?

You say there were attached support units to these Tank Battalions. What were they typically? Or were they more a customized task force suited to the occassion?

Would these Task forces be commanded and named after the Tank Battalion commander? Or would it be some other officer typically?

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Re: Tank BattalionMechanized task forces

Post by Akira Takizawa » 14 Mar 2006 04:07

> So 1st Battalion was with the Central China Expeditionary Army at this time?

Yes. It moved to Central China from North China before the battle.

> Were they then on the far Western flank of the 13th Division sweep north to the west of Hsuchou?

They dashed forward before the 13th Division and destroyed the bridge to cut the railway. See uploaded map.

> You say there were attached support units to these Tank Battalions. What were they typically?

Iwanaka Detachment
1st Tank Battalion
17th Independent Tankette Company
1st Battalion/14th Infantry Regiment
One platoon of 19th Mountain Gun Regiment
A part of 1st Independent Engineer Company
One Independent Motorcar Company
A part of 13th Divisional Signal Unit

> Would these Task forces be commanded and named after the Tank Battalion commander?

Yes. They were called Iwanaka Detachment and Imada Detachment

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