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Vartiotykkivene

Post by Mangrove » 23 Jan 2006 12:01

Here we have few frames from wartime finnish movie called "sotakatsaus". Can somebody confirm this is the VTV 1?

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Re: Vartiotykkivene

Post by JTV » 23 Jan 2006 14:47

Martti Kujansuu wrote:Here we have few frames from wartime finnish movie called "sotakatsaus". Can somebody confirm this is the VTV 1?

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It is pretty much guaranteed. As you can see the first photo shows it has Finnish military flag and VTV 1 was the only boat of this type used by Finnish military. These Soviet boats were rather interesting concept - armoured motorboat with tank turrets. This version seemed to have similar main turret as used in T-28 heavy tanks, but the later versions usually had T-34 turrets. Attached is photo of VTV 1 scale model, which is in Finnish Military Museum nowadays.

According the website mentioned below it was found beached near Pukkio in August of 1941. Soviets had driven it to shore to avoid sinking. Finnish Navy raised it and repaired its damages (the boat had shell-hits). It seems that the boat was mainly used in Lake Onega (Ääninen).
http://users.tkk.fi/~jaromaa/Navygallery/

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Post by Hanski » 23 Jan 2006 14:54

For those puzzled by this cryptic Finnish 14-letter word, it is combined of these three elements:

vartio = guard
tykki = gun
vene = boat

And the movie name is joint from these two:

sota = war
katsaus = review

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Post by Mangrove » 23 Jan 2006 15:36

Thanks JTV!

Here's some more frames from VTV 1

Ps. The name of the ship could been seen one second during the whole movie 8O
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Post by Esa K » 23 Jan 2006 18:54

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...just of curiosity, where did you see, tape, find, bought...(?) the movie in question...?


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Post by Mangrove » 23 Jan 2006 19:50

Esa K wrote:...just of curiosity, where did you see, tape, find, bought...(?) the movie in question...?


I got the "movie" from Suomen elokuva-arkisto (Finnish Film Archive). They got also many other wartime movies there.

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Post by Esa K » 23 Jan 2006 21:46

Thanks Martti...

...and a further question.

Martti Kujansuu wrote:They got also many other wartime movies there.


Browsed thru the Suomen elokuva-arkisto pages, but didnt found any lists or prices etc etc for material like it... Have the archive, how to put it, these films ready on video/DVD, or how to "get" them...? And the price...?



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Post by w9816 » 24 Jan 2006 07:27

Wasn't there something about the VTV included in the bonus material on the (new) "Tuntematon Sotilas" DVD? That was also a "Sotakatsaus" if I remember correctly.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 24 Jan 2006 13:03

Some photos from apparently same newsreel can also be seen at the Laivat Puuta, Miehet Rautaa (Ships of wood, men of iron) by Peuranheimo, Pirhonen and Killinen.
Here a pic from St. Petersburg Naval museum:

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Post by Esa K » 24 Jan 2006 18:30

And something for the modeller/collector too:

http://www.migproductions.com/MP/produc ... /35253.htm

The link also contains some further links to some sites of Soviet-battles, among others those at Ladoga, with the boat-type in question.


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Post by w9816 » 25 Jan 2006 10:45

The clip can actually be found on the Tuntematon sotilas-DVD, but is was the one with the original version. It was Sotakatsaus (War review) 16. Among other things, it dealt with the VTV1 and how it had been "captured" from the Russians and was now fighting on the "right" side for "higher cultural development" :D

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Post by Esa K » 25 Jan 2006 12:30

w9816 wrote:The clip can actually be found on the Tuntematon sotilas-DVD


Yep, thanks, interesting, found this about the Tuntematon... DVD: "Extra: Puolustusvoimien dokumenttielokuvia ja yleisradion äänitearkiston selostuksia." (fast and rough translation: Extra, defence forces documetary films and YLE-radio archive boadcasts)

here:

http://www.memoriesoffinland.com/catalo ... ategory=29


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Re: Vartiotykkivene

Post by IrregularMedic » 12 Jul 2013 01:46

I just stumbled across some photos of this vessel on the internet. Thought I'd share!

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Here you can see the forward machine gun turret took a hit that overmatched its armor on the side. I think it may have actually blown the roof off as well.

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This is the best picture I've seen of the early version of these boats (correct name Bronekater 1125 and 1124?) with the T-28 tank turret, rather than the later ones with T-34 turrets.

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I believe this is an interior shot of the vessel:

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Re: Vartiotykkivene

Post by IrregularMedic » 12 Jul 2013 01:48

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You can see how shallow the water is that the crew beached her in to keep her from sinking, with that guy wading out to the boat.

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You can just make out a diver in a diving helmet at the aft of the vessel here:

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Re: Vartiotykkivene

Post by IrregularMedic » 12 Jul 2013 01:51

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I think maybe these are stills from the movie mentioned in the posts above, but the links no longer work, so I haven't actually seen it.

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Is it on a train here?

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I wasn't aware Finland had captured one of these very interesting little boats until I stumbled across these images and thought I recognized Finnish uniforms. Axis History Forum was the first hit on a google search when I went for more information! ;)

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