NARA Jagdpanther pic question
NARA Jagdpanther pic question
Is there a real good and unclipped copy (where the background of the photo is visible) of this NARA pic: NARA, SC 42/366 ETO-HQ-45-20060.
Found it on the now offline page : http://www.12tharmoredmuseum.org/which_ ... =46&max=50
Thanks
Uli
Found it on the now offline page : http://www.12tharmoredmuseum.org/which_ ... =46&max=50
Thanks
Uli
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Slightly off topic...
Every single picture of a Panther Glacis, or a Jagdpanther glacis, penetration on the western front I've seen appears to be from a 90mm round, presumably from a M36. Granted, there are not many such pictures. Still, it strikes me as odd that I can't recall ever seeing a penetration from a 17pdr, either a full caliber ABCBC or a APDS round. Considering there were more 17pdr guns in the field, and they were used for a longer time, this seems odd. Does anyone ever recall seeing such a photo?
Every single picture of a Panther Glacis, or a Jagdpanther glacis, penetration on the western front I've seen appears to be from a 90mm round, presumably from a M36. Granted, there are not many such pictures. Still, it strikes me as odd that I can't recall ever seeing a penetration from a 17pdr, either a full caliber ABCBC or a APDS round. Considering there were more 17pdr guns in the field, and they were used for a longer time, this seems odd. Does anyone ever recall seeing such a photo?
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Your frontal hit JP-pic: post war photo from Alsace/France (sPzJgAbt 654), on the left sideof the vehicle the sign "DOMA III ES" is visible, probably a french scrap dealer mark.
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Well , there we go ...
Another Jagdpanther wreck :
It was published in the "Gifhorner Rundschau" on 4.2.2006 , according to the man who is on the pic it is taken 1954 in the area north of Gifhorn , near the road B4 ( but for me , the topogrphy does not fit , the area there is absolutely flat ! ) . "Clausewitz" , II.PzLhrRgt. 130 or "Kampfgruppe Nicolussi-Leck" , that is now the question ...
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Another Jagdpanther wreck :
It was published in the "Gifhorner Rundschau" on 4.2.2006 , according to the man who is on the pic it is taken 1954 in the area north of Gifhorn , near the road B4 ( but for me , the topogrphy does not fit , the area there is absolutely flat ! ) . "Clausewitz" , II.PzLhrRgt. 130 or "Kampfgruppe Nicolussi-Leck" , that is now the question ...
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The area this Gazette mentioned ( between the village Wagenhoff and the road B4 , former Reichsstraße 4 , and around ) is really flat , I have worked in this area for 1 1/2 years
The area about 15 km northwest would fit more if you would ask me . And that would speak that this is one of the "Clausewitz"-Jagpanthers .
My speculation :
- For a JP of II./PzLhrBt130 even Wagenhoff is too far north
- for a Jp of KGr."N-L" I doubt that it would have had enough fuel to get thus far ( and the only tank that came across Hohne seems to have turned west there , not east )
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The area about 15 km northwest would fit more if you would ask me . And that would speak that this is one of the "Clausewitz"-Jagpanthers .
My speculation :
- For a JP of II./PzLhrBt130 even Wagenhoff is too far north
- for a Jp of KGr."N-L" I doubt that it would have had enough fuel to get thus far ( and the only tank that came across Hohne seems to have turned west there , not east )
Jan-Hendrik